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Flares, terraces and cheap tickets 
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Sham157
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Which if we extrapolate out, was my original point. Of course there are die hard fans of teams overseas from Ireland, but I would think most of them have a LoI side as they are genuine football people. But a sizeable rump are there to get away from the missus for a weekend. Which is more likely to be allowed happen; "I'm off to London on the beer" or "I am off to London for a match"?
Nothing wrong with that per say, I have done it myself more than once, but lets not kid ourselves that these people are somehow fans of the game.
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maybe not but it is the same idea. In any sport we don't really have a culture of going every week. There is that in England and elsewhere. Here it is more about the event and the bandwagon. |
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am a massive GAA fan but i definitely agree with this , there is no culture of going week -in week out , club games and inter-county league games pull very few fans until the real latter stages are reached, it is very much a bandwagon culture.
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Most of those going to home games against the likes of germany france italy etc are going to watch the opposition
Very few so called fans are bothered about going to the likes of armenia etc which in reality with our group of players its more important to beat these
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Too many ****s in this country
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A lot of event junkies in this country
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@ RTID once again your hatred of the GAA makes you look like a complete tool. I'm guessing this is down to Thomas Davis so please say that rather then making stupid comments (by the way plenty of people don't like that club for various reasons).
you among others keep on trying to comepare attendence of GAA games with that of LOI games, why? its a completely pointless exercise given that both sports operate under completly different structures. Edited by sausy - 16 Jul 2013 at 4:03pm |
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Used to go to all the dubs championship games more for the day out on the beer than anything else. I felt a bit on an impostor because i dont have any real attachment or liking of the GAA.
A lot of my mates would be dub dubs as opposed to culchie dubs and would have no time whatsoever for the GAA. If i'm honest i only ever wanted dublin to win as an excuse for another sunday on the lash. I suppose i'm like 90 per cent of dubs fans in that respect.
After Thomas Davis acting the bollix over Tallaght i decided i'd pack in the dubs. I'm a person of very few principles but on this i decided that i'm not giving the GAA any more of my money. So as far as the GAA is concerned i'm quite happy to be a barstooler.............
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Will you get back in your box and stop putting words in my mouth.
Which was my point you dunderhead.
There is no doubt that the GAA cups are the best supported sports events in Ireland, even if the attendences are falling. The point that is being made is that they also suffer from event junkies, but the advantage they have is people aren't going to England for 'the big match' and that bread and butter GAA is actually poorer supported than football. According to the ESRI football overtook hurling as the second highest attended spectator sport in 2011.
Bandwagonning is an Irish phenomenon, not just football, but rugby and GAA at least have the product for the couple of game a season heads in Ireland as they aren't competing with the biggest league in the world (tm). The problem Irish football now has is the Ole Ole brigade seem to have been sucked into a Sky Sports vortex. There was a time that a big Ireland game stopped the country - that only happens when we make the euro's or WC these days.
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Look at somewhere like Athens or the big 3 in Portugal. There are massive numbers who only go to the 2 big home games and have zero interest in the week in week out stuff. Not ideal, but at least they go and indenify with their sides.
It is the culture, the FAI/clubs need to find some way to tap into it. Rovers v Bohs once a year in the Aviva has been floated, create an event. And the Celtic Liverpool debacle is a wonderfully cynical way for the FAI to cash in.
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sausy
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In regards to attendances at LOI games versus Senior club games, of course LOI games are going to have higher attendances. But its not a fair comparison, the LOI hosts 16 league games a week across the country between both divisions. Dublin GAA alone has 16 Senior club league games next Wednesday with God knows how many more across the rest of the country. And due to league games being free to watch we'll never know what kind of numbers attend every week.
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If it was advatageous to the GAA for us to know, we would know.
Why are we comparing Dublin gaelic club games to the LoI. Surely the LSL is the comparison there - they are broadly the same level and will get broadly the same crowds.
My point was that if we take an average of hurling and gaelic intercounty league crowds in counties where there are a LoI presence, I would say that the results would suprise.
We simply don't do week in week out sport on this island. |
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sausy
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oh the GAA know alright, for years they have been keeping track of the number of people entering public parks around the country.
LSL and Dublin club games would probably be a better comparison, but since I've never been to a LSL game I can't really comment.
I don't see the point in comparing football and hurling league crowds to LOI, whether there's a LOI presence in the area or not. Both sports aren't mutually exclusive, games are played on different days and plenty of people go to both.
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