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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Didn't realise Giggs had as rough an upbringing until recently when i listened to his brohther on a podcast. His Dad used to beat and cheat on their mum. He told a story of his Dad driving the car one time with one or both of the sons in the back and saw their mum at a bus stop and stopped the car and started to beat her in the street




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What are yous making of the evidence in the trial so far? 

Think as a juror I would be a little sceptical about the character of the accuser. For example, not letting police into her icloud and only allowing access to certain messages.

Defence could counter everything said so far as mostly "not a criminal offence" or "your word (and sisters) against his".

Obviously only my own opinion based on the information being released.


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He is accused of assault as the most serious charge. If there is good evidence he did assault her and her sister then her character, sexual preferences etc are not going to much good for him as a defence.
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Anyone think he will be jailed ? 
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Anyone think he will be jailed ? 
No idea as I'm not in the court. 
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Originally posted by EdisonCavani EdisonCavani wrote:

He is accused of assault as the most serious charge. If there is good evidence he did assault her and her sister then her character, sexual preferences etc are not going to much good for him as a defence.

Yeah true, if there is obvious evidence of the assault then he would face conviction and some sort of sentence. Not sure if he would see actual jail time. 

If there was evidence, my defense as the accused would be that it happened by mistake during a struggle. Let's see what comes up.
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by EdisonCavani EdisonCavani wrote:

He is accused of assault as the most serious charge. If there is good evidence he did assault her and her sister then her character, sexual preferences etc are not going to much good for him as a defence.

Yeah true, if there is obvious evidence of the assault then he would face conviction and some sort of sentence. Not sure if he would see actual jail time. 

If there was evidence, my defense as the accused would be that it happened by mistake during a struggle. Let's see what comes up.

Why are you only putting yourself in the position as the accused.  
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He'll walk out a free man from what I can see. 
She's picking and choosing what she wants to provide as evidence and telling some people her bruises are sex bruises but the police assault bruises.  
She will be shown by the defense to be a completely unreliable witness.

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by EdisonCavani EdisonCavani wrote:

He is accused of assault as the most serious charge. If there is good evidence he did assault her and her sister then her character, sexual preferences etc are not going to much good for him as a defence.

Yeah true, if there is obvious evidence of the assault then he would face conviction and some sort of sentence. Not sure if he would see actual jail time. 

If there was evidence, my defense as the accused would be that it happened by mistake during a struggle. Let's see what comes up.

Why are you only putting yourself in the position as the accused.  

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I'd be inclined to give a man that was riding his brother's wife for 8 years the benefit of the doubt here too.
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

I'd be inclined to give a man that was riding his brother's wife for 8 years the benefit of the doubt here too.

LOL Yeah I suppose it was a bit rich me questioning the witnesses character.

Ah my thoughts were more around is there enough evidence for conviction and how would you defend against evidence provided so far. 

I do agree with HB, think he might walk unless there is conclusive evidence to the assault. 
Now I would fully expect she comes back with a civil case where the threshold is lower and probably wins there
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I haven't read into it in much detail so I don't have a strong opinion on it. But what he was doing to his brother is disgusting, weird and creepy. 


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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

He'll walk out a free man from what I can see. 
She's picking and choosing what she wants to provide as evidence and telling some people her bruises are sex bruises but the police assault bruises.  
<b>She will be shown by the defense to be a completely unreliable witness.</b>

Early days yet though.
you seem to have decided early days or not and unless you’ve sat through and will continue to sit through the proceedings without prejudice you really haven’t a clue what will or won’t be shown.
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Jury fails to reach verdict.
Likely it won't go to trial again one would imagine. Probably will face a civil trial 

Wonder what next for Giggs from a career perspective? I would think still far too tainted to get a top gig at club or international level.
Perhaps on one of the foreign TV stations as a pundit.

 


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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Jury fails to reach verdict.
Likely it won't go to trial again one would imagine. Probably will face a civil trial 

Wonder what next for Giggs from a career perspective? I would think still far too tainted to get a top gig at club or international level.
Perhaps on one of the foreign TV stations as a pundit.

 

the crown prosecution service has a week to decide whether to pursue a retrial. should they do so the retrial won't be until next summer.
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Jury fails to reach verdict.
Likely it won't go to trial again one would imagine. Probably will face a civil trial 

Wonder what next for Giggs from a career perspective? I would think still far too tainted to get a top gig at club or international level.
Perhaps on one of the foreign TV stations as a pundit.

 
Re-trial confirmed for next year. 
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A statement from Giggs lawyers has said that ''Ryan wishes to have his privacy respected for now and wishes to continue his new career as a marriage guidance counsellor in peace''
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