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Think Sunderland rejected an approach for Fulop from City
 
 
 

City facing Hart-break over Joe bid

Tuesday 27th April 2010 19:04

 

Hart:%20Wanted%20back%20at%20Eastlands

Hart: Wanted back at Eastlands

 

Manchester City have been advised by the Premier League they will not be able to recall Joe Hart from Birmingham to solve their keeper crisis

So they aint getting Hart either
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6120236,00.html
Looks like they got Fulop.
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It's a f**king joke of a situation! Shouldn't be allowed to do this.
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So is this now the precedent set for other clubs, as in say united get Berbatov, Owen, Rooney, Macheda, Diouf all injured and Welbecks out on loan..... does that mean they can get an emergency striker signed from another club outside of the transfer window or does it only specifically apply to goal keepers? Anyone know?
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

So is this now the precedent set for other clubs, as in say united get Berbatov, Owen, Rooney, Macheda, Diouf all injured and Welbecks out on loan..... does that mean they can get an emergency striker signed from another club outside of the transfer window or does it only specifically apply to goal keepers? Anyone know?

Interesting question, I would say that the powers that be would say it only applies to goalkeepers because it's a specialised position, but I don't think there is much recognition for that sort of thing like there is in rugby.

On another note, when Fulop goes into the team ahead of Nielsen, will there be questions to answer over how much of an emergency there actually was? Thought this was about have a spare...
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I wonder if they do get 4th place will the likes of Tottenham complain at a higher level about how there is an unfair advantage, similar to that of West Ham and Sheffield United over the Tevez saga!
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

So is this now the precedent set for other clubs, as in say united get Berbatov, Owen, Rooney, Macheda, Diouf all injured and Welbecks out on loan..... does that mean they can get an emergency striker signed from another club outside of the transfer window or does it only specifically apply to goal keepers? Anyone know?
 
i think it only applies to outfield players when you can't field a full starting lineup
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

So is this now the precedent set for other clubs, as in say united get Berbatov, Owen, Rooney, Macheda, Diouf all injured and Welbecks out on loan..... does that mean they can get an emergency striker signed from another club outside of the transfer window or does it only specifically apply to goal keepers? Anyone know?
 
this was always the case, it's not like they are just making an exception  just for City, sure not long ago Villa did it, they got that keeper that used to play in goal for crystal palace, cant think of his name but he used to wear tarcksuit bottoms everytime he played, i think it only applies for keepers aswell
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Absolute disgcrace that City were able to bring in an emergency loan keeper, takes the piss though when they bring him in and start him when they have a perfectly fit keeper at the club already Thumbs%20Down
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Originally posted by Críostóir Óg Críostóir Óg wrote:


On another note, when Fulop goes into the team ahead of Nielsen, will there be questions to answer over how much of an emergency there actually was? Thought this was about have a spare...


This. City could easily have drafted an academy GK as bench cover, as it's pretty unlikely that he would be used with just three games remaining.

Spurs will have a huge complaint. I can see this going to arbitration if they miss out.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by Críostóir Óg Críostóir Óg wrote:


On another note, when Fulop goes into the team ahead of Nielsen, will there be questions to answer over how much of an emergency there actually was? Thought this was about have a spare...


This. City could easily have drafted an academy GK as bench cover, as it's pretty unlikely that he would be used with just three games remaining.

Spurs will have a huge complaint. I can see this going to arbitration if they miss out.

I think they've acted appaulingly and as I've said repeatedly just shows they extent of their new money attitude, bring in a heap of attacking palyers at inflated prices but don't build a squad properly...
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Interesting article in the Irish Times yesterday which I can't seem to find online but Citeh apparently have 9 keepers on their books (incl Joe Hart) 4 of whom seem to be still at the club and aren't injured and yet they were allowed to sign Fulop on an 'emergency loan basis'   Confused
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Found the article:

 
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MANCHESTER CITY are in danger of being labelled Indian Givers following their request to the Premier League authorities to take back Joe Hart from Birmingham City, having originally agreed to a loan deal that would see the goalkeeper remain at St Andrews until the end of the season.

The reason City wanted Hart back is the dislocated shoulder suffered by their first choice, Republic of Ireland goalkeeper Shay Given, during the club’s 0-0 draw with Arsenal last weekend and the fact back-up goalkeeper Stuart Taylor was recovering from knee surgery and David Gonzalez, City’s fourth choice, has a groin problem.

The Premier League ruled, though, that City possessed nine goalkeepers on their books, more than enough to cope with the goalkeeping crisis, much to the annoyance of the Manchester club, who eventually signed up Marton Fulop, Sunderland’s third choice goalkeeper, on loan.

So who are the other nine goalkeepers other on the Manchester City books? We thought we’d have a look at the options open to City boss Roberto Mancini in Given’s absence.

Gunnar Nielsen (23): The Faroe Islands’ number two who came on when Given was stretchered off injured against Arsenal.

Joe Hart (23): He became the City number one under Sven-Göran Eriksson but, with Shay Given’s arrival, his star waned and he is now, of course, on loan at St Andrew’s.

Stuart Taylor (29): He was signed by previous manager Mark Hughes in July 2009 after being released by Aston Villa. He is recovering from knee surgery.

David Gonzalez (27): A Colombian international, he was a free agent last year when he joined Manchester City after a trial.

He is sidelined with a groin injury.

Louis Karius (17): A German teenager persuaded to move to City from Stuttgart by Hughes in May last year.

Tobias Johansen (19): The Norwegian-born goalkeeper has been loaned to Kongsvinger in his homeland. He signed an extension to his contract in 2008.

James Wood (19): Welsh-born Scot, son of the former Arsenal, Everton and Scotland goalkeeper George Wood.

Nathan Dean: A Manchester United-supporting 19 year-old, he was spotted as a schoolboy in St Helens in 2004.

 
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Originally posted by Críostóir Óg Críostóir Óg wrote:


I think they've acted appaulingly and as I've said repeatedly just shows they extent of their new money attitude, bring in a heap of attacking palyers at inflated prices but don't build a squad properly...

Don't blame City's profligacy in the transfer market. That they've failed to get the squad right is neither here nor there. What's at issue here, is the bending of the rules by the games rulers, as they had enough keepers.

I've always disliked the hard and fast transfer window concept, which might get a makeover after this fiasco.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by Críostóir Óg Críostóir Óg wrote:


I think they've acted appaulingly and as I've said repeatedly just shows they extent of their new money attitude, bring in a heap of attacking palyers at inflated prices but don't build a squad properly...

Don't blame City's profligacy in the transfer market. That they've failed to get the squad right is neither here nor there. What's at issue here, is the bending of the rules by the games rulers, as they had enough keepers.

I've always disliked the hard and fast transfer window concept, which might get a makeover after this fiasco.

I think their transfer activity is relavent because an experienced club who weren't going gung ho flexing their financial muscles would have sat down at said we need x, y and z, which includes a number of decent keepers.

Before the transfer window was in place couldn't you simply buy players all year long until a cut off date towards the end of the season?

What would you do instead to replace the transfer window?
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