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I think Stoke are playing Cork next week in a friendly.
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Originally posted by musicinmouth musicinmouth wrote:

I think Stoke are playing Cork next week in a friendly.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Tbf the technical side of things Kilkenny has it in spades. What stopped him getting 35 games as opposed to 16 for Bournemouth last year was his lack of experience playing the role and the nitty gritty stuff. He will get plenty experience of that at Stoke. 

I was hoping he would go to Coventry or Huddersfield myself. Can see Stoke doing well this year so hopefully he gets a full season of games and goes back to Bournemouth more ready!
No Kevin, you were hoping, as always, he'd go somewhere like Anderlecht. Kilkenny himself says he'd prefer England, where his progress would be more on show. He's right. Stoke, a regular EPL club and a likely promotion contender, would be an excellent move.

I believe your favourite player, Josh Cullen, now 26, would benefit from such a move. His Anderlecht choice has been overrated - similar form in the Championship would have seen him closer to an EPL season. Had he got a move to such as Forest he'd be there already. He might even be there had he stayed and fought for his place at West Ham. 

What stopped Kilkenny getting more games for Bournemouth was pure and simple - the manager preferred someone else. Going abroad to other than a major league is no better than going to the SPFL. And that's not much good at all.

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Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Tbf the technical side of things Kilkenny has it in spades. What stopped him getting 35 games as opposed to 16 for Bournemouth last year was his lack of experience playing the role and the nitty gritty stuff. He will get plenty experience of that at Stoke. 

I was hoping he would go to Coventry or Huddersfield myself. Can see Stoke doing well this year so hopefully he gets a full season of games and goes back to Bournemouth more ready!
No Kevin, you were hoping, as always, he'd go somewhere like Anderlecht. Kilkenny himself says he'd prefer England, where his progress would be more on show. He's right. Stoke, a regular EPL club and a likely promotion contender, would be an excellent move.

I believe your favourite player, Josh Cullen, now 26, would benefit from such a move. His Anderlecht choice has been overrated - similar form in the Championship would have seen him closer to an EPL season. Had he got a move to such as Forest he'd be there already. He might even be there had he stayed and fought for his place at West Ham. 

What stopped Kilkenny getting more games for Bournemouth was pure and simple - the manager preferred someone else. Going abroad to other than a major league is no better than going to the SPFL. And that's not much good at all.

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Tbf the technical side of things Kilkenny has it in spades. What stopped him getting 35 games as opposed to 16 for Bournemouth last year was his lack of experience playing the role and the nitty gritty stuff. He will get plenty experience of that at Stoke. 

I was hoping he would go to Coventry or Huddersfield myself. Can see Stoke doing well this year so hopefully he gets a full season of games and goes back to Bournemouth more ready!
No Kevin, you were hoping, as always, he'd go somewhere like Anderlecht. Kilkenny himself says he'd prefer England, where his progress would be more on show. He's right. Stoke, a regular EPL club and a likely promotion contender, would be an excellent move.

I believe your favourite player, Josh Cullen, now 26, would benefit from such a move. His Anderlecht choice has been overrated - similar form in the Championship would have seen him closer to an EPL season. Had he got a move to such as Forest he'd be there already. He might even be there had he stayed and fought for his place at West Ham. 

What stopped Kilkenny getting more games for Bournemouth was pure and simple - the manager preferred someone else. Going abroad to other than a major league is no better than going to the SPFL. And that's not much good at all.

Jaysus you sound bitter.
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Tbf the technical side of things Kilkenny has it in spades. What stopped him getting 35 games as opposed to 16 for Bournemouth last year was his lack of experience playing the role and the nitty gritty stuff. He will get plenty experience of that at Stoke. 

I was hoping he would go to Coventry or Huddersfield myself. Can see Stoke doing well this year so hopefully he gets a full season of games and goes back to Bournemouth more ready!
No Kevin, you were hoping, as always, he'd go somewhere like Anderlecht. Kilkenny himself says he'd prefer England, where his progress would be more on show. He's right. Stoke, a regular EPL club and a likely promotion contender, would be an excellent move.

I believe your favourite player, Josh Cullen, now 26, would benefit from such a move. His Anderlecht choice has been overrated - similar form in the Championship would have seen him closer to an EPL season. Had he got a move to such as Forest he'd be there already. He might even be there had he stayed and fought for his place at West Ham. 

What stopped Kilkenny getting more games for Bournemouth was pure and simple - the manager preferred someone else. Going abroad to other than a major league is no better than going to the SPFL. And that's not much good at all.

Jaysus you sound bitter.
Thanks for that, cY2K! Why is it so objectionable to suggest Cullen, who I admire, would have been more advantaged for an EPL move by being a top-performing Championship player rather than away in Belgium? And why is my comment re Kilkenny, who I also rate, so awful? He was dropped, it happens. Kilkenny's comment also suggests he agrees with my Championship opinion. 
No bitterness whatsoever, and I have much respect for Kevin100 despite occasional differences. 
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Contract extension at Bournemouth and loan move to Stoke formalised.
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Contract extension at Bournemouth and loan move to Stoke formalised.


Should see him get minutes against a Cork City XI next Saturday at Turner's Cross.
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good move, excited to see him play every week (hopefully)
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Tbf the technical side of things Kilkenny has it in spades. What stopped him getting 35 games as opposed to 16 for Bournemouth last year was his lack of experience playing the role and the nitty gritty stuff. He will get plenty experience of that at Stoke. 

I was hoping he would go to Coventry or Huddersfield myself. Can see Stoke doing well this year so hopefully he gets a full season of games and goes back to Bournemouth more ready!
No Kevin, you were hoping, as always, he'd go somewhere like Anderlecht. Kilkenny himself says he'd prefer England, where his progress would be more on show. He's right. Stoke, a regular EPL club and a likely promotion contender, would be an excellent move.

I believe your favourite player, Josh Cullen, now 26, would benefit from such a move. His Anderlecht choice has been overrated - similar form in the Championship would have seen him closer to an EPL season. Had he got a move to such as Forest he'd be there already. He might even be there had he stayed and fought for his place at West Ham. 

What stopped Kilkenny getting more games for Bournemouth was pure and simple - the manager preferred someone else. Going abroad to other than a major league is no better than going to the SPFL. And that's not much good at all.

Jaysus you sound bitter.
Thanks for that, cY2K! Why is it so objectionable to suggest Cullen, who I admire, would have been more advantaged for an EPL move by being a top-performing Championship player rather than away in Belgium? And why is my comment re Kilkenny, who I also rate, so awful? He was dropped, it happens. Kilkenny's comment also suggests he agrees with my Championship opinion. 
No bitterness whatsoever, and I have much respect for Kevin100 despite occasional differences. 
 

I thought his conclusion he would be more in the "public eye" was a strange one especially considering how much it has benefitted Cullen who is the benchmark for these younger midfielders trying to get into the National Team and I commented Kilkenny himself would be tailor made for a continental League in the same way Cullen was! Anyone who's watched him play wouldn't argue against that. There's nothing outlandish in drawing that conclusion.

Kilkenny sees it that way and no issue. He's got a good move to a club I think will do well in the Championship this season. They are in dire need of a DM and one that might be a bit more combative but every bit as much a ball player as Joe Allen was. Kilkenny clearly fits that bill.

Of course the manager prefered someone else that was older more experienced and better now. This is why Bournemouth are loaning out Kilkenny to get him more experience and to develop! The point made was it was factors other then raw ability and talent that stopped Kilkenny playing 35 games as opposed to 14 for Bournemouth last year. Don't forget he hadn't even played senior football up to this season.

I agree he looks really talented and with consistent gametime has huge scope for progression. I would happily take you telling me how wrong I was again this time next year if Kilkenny is going back to Bournemouth with 40 matches under his belt preparing to play in the Premier League! 
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Good solid move for him.

Fingers crossed Coventry, Smallbone & Noss follow suit.
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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Good solid move for him.

Fingers crossed Coventry, Smallbone & Noss follow suit.
 

If Coventry moves it will likely be later in the window. West Ham clearly want to have a good look at him pre season.

Devoy potentially moving to MK Dons Henry Francis being linked Dons Oxford and Plymouth as well. Hodge I suspect will stay with Wolves until January. Be interesting to see his he involved with the Wolves 1st team in pre season. 


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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Good solid move for him.

Fingers crossed Coventry, Smallbone & Noss follow suit.
 

If Coventry moves it will likely be later in the window. West Ham clearly want to have a good look at him pre season.

Devoy potentially moving to MK Dons Henry Francis being linked Dons Oxford and Plymouth as well. Hodge I suspect will stay with Wolves until January. Be interesting to see his he involved with the Wolves 1st team in pre season. 

I've seen Hodge in the Wolves first team training pictures so far. A bunch of our players aren't back yet but I hope he stays involved and sees some minutes in preseason friendlies. I don't think we will loan him yet he was only really involved for a few months last season as he came to us injured but if we get a good opportunity for him maybe.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Tbf the technical side of things Kilkenny has it in spades. What stopped him getting 35 games as opposed to 16 for Bournemouth last year was his lack of experience playing the role and the nitty gritty stuff. He will get plenty experience of that at Stoke. 

I was hoping he would go to Coventry or Huddersfield myself. Can see Stoke doing well this year so hopefully he gets a full season of games and goes back to Bournemouth more ready!
No Kevin, you were hoping, as always, he'd go somewhere like Anderlecht. Kilkenny himself says he'd prefer England, where his progress would be more on show. He's right. Stoke, a regular EPL club and a likely promotion contender, would be an excellent move.

I believe your favourite player, Josh Cullen, now 26, would benefit from such a move. His Anderlecht choice has been overrated - similar form in the Championship would have seen him closer to an EPL season. Had he got a move to such as Forest he'd be there already. He might even be there had he stayed and fought for his place at West Ham. 

What stopped Kilkenny getting more games for Bournemouth was pure and simple - the manager preferred someone else. Going abroad to other than a major league is no better than going to the SPFL. And that's not much good at all.

Jaysus you sound bitter.
Thanks for that, cY2K! Why is it so objectionable to suggest Cullen, who I admire, would have been more advantaged for an EPL move by being a top-performing Championship player rather than away in Belgium? And why is my comment re Kilkenny, who I also rate, so awful? He was dropped, it happens. Kilkenny's comment also suggests he agrees with my Championship opinion. 
No bitterness whatsoever, and I have much respect for Kevin100 despite occasional differences. 

In 2021 Arsenal paid 20 million for Cullen's midfield teammate at Anderlecht - haven't seen them do that at Luton or Blackburn


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Lots of Championship players get Premiership moves with varying success. 
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Gets his 1st start for Stoke, in the EFL Cup vs Morecambe.

Only played about 15 minutes in 1 of the 2 league games so far. Hopefully he can push into the firs XI.
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First league start against Sunderland.
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Smallbone and kilkenny will be managing the Stoke midfield today. Fingers crossed they hit the ground running 
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