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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Het-field Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 

God, it’s been a while since I’ve heard these ones. The steps weren’t “ridiculous”, any more than the vast majority of goals scored like that. And the the extra time thing is at the discretion of the referee. You don’t add on time for every free kick taken during a game.

1995, there was no “robbing” either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 

God, it’s been a while since I’ve heard these ones. The steps weren’t “ridiculous”, any more than the vast majority of goals scored like that. And the the extra time thing is at the discretion of the referee. You don’t add on time for every free kick taken during a game.

1995, there was no “robbing” either.
Come out of that. Kevin MC and Murchan at the weekend blessed with the refs letting them away with it. Was 95 not the match where Redmond refused to leave the field after the sending off and dublin's winner was wide? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Green Devil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Bottom line is that if you get your act together with underage coaching etc then if your pool is 1m odd as opposed to Laois’s 60,000 then you’re going to supply a greater number of the Con O’ OCallaghans of this world. You can’t hide from the inequality Re population. 



Totally agree, but the solution to that is not simply cut Dublin into 3 or 4 but its also the almalgation of counties etc.

However i will add look at the work that Monaghan have been doing over the last number of years compared to say Kildare or Meath who have huge populations and Cork also. The performance by other Leinster counties with large populations in the qualifiers has been terrible. Meath finally got their act together this year but were also beaten in all of their super 8 games.

But if population size is the basis for reform then the whole thing needs to be looked at and not just Dublin.

Strange post basing "success" solely at senior level.

Cork won the minor and u20 All Ireland double this year.

Kildare have 3 out of the last 5 Leinster minor titles and won the u20 All Ireland last year.

Meath's minors won Leinster in 2018 to their credit also.

In regard to Meath's super 8 performances/results, in truth making the super 8s was an achievement in itself on top of throwing away a big lead in the league final (one they should have never lost) all in all they had a good year.

Most if not all of the top clubs in Dublin have their own development officer, I think in the whole of Laois there are 5 that have to cover the whole county and that makes a massive difference.
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Just had a watch of it again there on YouTube - the sort of dark arts you'd hope to get away with as a defender but definitely a free if the ref spots it. Not really sure how there is any debate around it to be honest - clearly pulls him back by the arm.

I remember the “debate” in 2011. McStay on RTÉ is comic gold at the time. The defender himself spoke about the extra covering man, which makes zero difference.
Later that year mcmenanin taking ridiculous for the goal, soft free to win it and not adding any extra time despite taking an age from when it was rewarded to when it was kicked. The GAA were desperate for Dublin to win it and they got their wish. Same in the 95 final Tyrone absolutely robbed. 

God, it’s been a while since I’ve heard these ones. The steps weren’t “ridiculous”, any more than the vast majority of goals scored like that. And the the extra time thing is at the discretion of the referee. You don’t add on time for every free kick taken during a game.

1995, there was no “robbing” either.
Come out of that. Kevin MC and Murchan at the weekend blessed with the refs letting them away with it. Was 95 not the match where Redmond refused to leave the field after the sending off and dublin's winner was wide? 

Murchan’s and McManamon’s goals were very different. 9 times out of 10 McManamon’s is awarded.

The Redmond incident was a mess. It was a miscommunication, which was patently obvious at the time.
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Bottom line is that if you get your act together with underage coaching etc then if your pool is 1m odd as opposed to Laois’s 60,000 then you’re going to supply a greater number of the Con O’ OCallaghans of this world. You can’t hide from the inequality Re population. 



Totally agree, but the solution to that is not simply cut Dublin into 3 or 4 but its also the almalgation of counties etc.

However i will add look at the work that Monaghan have been doing over the last number of years compared to say Kildare or Meath who have huge populations and Cork also. The performance by other Leinster counties with large populations in the qualifiers has been terrible. Meath finally got their act together this year but were also beaten in all of their super 8 games.

But if population size is the basis for reform then the whole thing needs to be looked at and not just Dublin.

Strange post basing "success" solely at senior level.

Cork won the minor and u20 All Ireland double this year.

Kildare have 3 out of the last 5 Leinster minor titles and won the u20 All Ireland last year.

Meath's minors won Leinster in 2018 to their credit also.

In regard to Meath's super 8 performances/results, in truth making the super 8s was an achievement in itself on top of throwing away a big lead in the league final (one they should have never lost) all in all they had a good year.

Most if not all of the top clubs in Dublin have their own development officer, I think in the whole of Laois there are 5 that have to cover the whole county and that makes a massive difference.

The reason is senior football is the stick to beat Dublin with and is the reason people
Are saying Dublin’s success is ruining gaa. If they were taking
Minor into it their argument would run dry. 
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The step up from both Minor and U-20 standard to Senior Inter-County football is huge. It was never the greatest indicator of future trends in the past and even more so now.
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Originally posted by Bo Jackson Bo Jackson wrote:

The step up from both Minor and U-20 standard to Senior Inter-County football is huge. It was never the greatest indicator of future trends in the past and even more so now.
Yeah don't Dublin win the majority of u20/21 titles over the last 10 or 15 years? Even this year they made the final and had the top player of the championship. 
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Cavan v Monaghan in the Preliminary Round and Donegal v Tyrone in the quarter finals in the Ulster Championship Shocked
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Cavan v Monaghan in the Preliminary Round and Donegal v Tyrone in the quarter finals in the Ulster Championship Shocked

 
Could be worse avoided Donegal/Tyrone, easier side of the draw with Antrim, Fermanagh/Down. Take that.

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Just seen the video from enniskerry. Very very lucky nobody was killed in that🙈
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Originally posted by colmoc colmoc wrote:

Just seen the video from enniskerry. Very very lucky nobody was killed in that🙈

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Shocking. Know one the lads who’s injured. Wish people wouldn’t share that stuff on WhatsApp.
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Were they on a lorry?  Looked very unsafe whatever they were on.
Disregard the ice warnings and proceed full steam ahead. We are making great time. I want that trans Atlantic record! And turn off that bloody infernal Morse Code system!

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Were they on a lorry?  Looked very unsafe whatever they were on.

Yeah on the roof of an Artic trailer 
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Was a terrible idea.  Is there no health and safety legislation to prevent unsafe practice like that occurring?
Disregard the ice warnings and proceed full steam ahead. We are making great time. I want that trans Atlantic record! And turn off that bloody infernal Morse Code system!

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How exactly is this the 2 tier going to work? Are there still provincinal championships?
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