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irish_major
Ray Houghton Bookie Slayer Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3938 |
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This is something I've not been concerned about to date but I am starting to wonder if I should get some cover, I have never fully understood the benefit of having private insurance though: Every time I have had a hospital visit it is free!?
What is making me re-evaluate is the quicker access to newer cancer treatments in private hospitals if the need ever arose. Am I missing something though? Do people with health insurance always use a private hospital when they need to go in? Are all your costs covered except for the excess in your visits? |
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Godzilla
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Why is it free? Do you live up North?
I have VHI cover. To be honest, health insurance is a bit of a scam. You need it for when sh*t his the fan i.e. a big operation. But even with VHI, you still end up paying some fees at SwiftCare clinics and the like.
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Sham157
Moderator Group Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Location: Monaghan/Dublin Status: Offline Points: 33242 |
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A&E visits are not free in Ireland (medical cards excepted). If however you visit your GP and pay that fee and he refers you then you do not pay in the hospital.
I have a VHI policy, their second cheapest I think, so low level of cover. Had a couple of GP visits last year and got €20 back per visit. I also need an MRI on my lower back thanks to old age and once I get a GP referral that will be covered by VHI without having to go on a Public waiting list. You will be covered in a Public hospital under any plan, but as the cover rises so does you level of cover obviously, semi private room or private room in a public or private hospital etc. Moght be worth having a look at hia.ie and get an understanding of what means what. Edited by Sham157 - 22 Apr 2024 at 1:36pm |
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Godzilla
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Most Irish GPs tell you that you have a viral infection and then charge you €60-70 quid for a 2 minute conversation. No prescription. |
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Sham157
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irish_major
Ray Houghton Bookie Slayer Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3938 |
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Galway! I've had a minor lung issue over the past number of years, nodule that's bigger than it should be, was noticed on an x-ray and I've been monitored since. I've had CT scan, multiple x-rays, brochoscopy and met the consultant every 6 or so months. It's not a serious issue, just routinely monitored but I have not paid 1 cent for all this. I was referred by my doctor, process is slow at times but as it's not a serious issue I don't really care about the public system taking a lot of time. Would be very worried if I needed something urgently seen so that's why I'm trying to understand if I should get healthcare. Also understand private hospitals get quicker access to newer cancer medications due to less red tape.
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Godzilla
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My mother has had a lot of health problems recently and the waiting list was still very long going through private. The healthcare system in Ireland is really bad. Badly organised, not well funded, etc.
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t_rAndy
Robbie Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 26293 |
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Subsidised through the job and the contribution i do make towards it comes from my gross so i dont really feel the loss of paying towards it. Have a high level of cover and it's a peace of mind for sure.
Get 75% back off GP visits for example so it's also makes it easier to make a decision to go to a GP versus like when I was young and your arm had to be hanging off before you would be allowed go see the GP. Definitely I have paid more into it than I've taken out but again if sh*t ever hit the fan then I'll be glad I have it
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greenlad
Liam Brady Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
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You'd want to be careful IM coz that could be considered a pre existing condition and therefore you wouldn't get cover for up to 5 years.
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greenlad
Liam Brady Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
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Health insurance is a minefield tbh, as someone said the hia.ie website is quite good but you need to know what you're looking for, consultant fees, emergency dept fees, gp visits and stuff like that are pay and claim. There is a difference in the hospitals too ie Blackrock and hermitage are private hospitals but beacon is high tech..... It's mad stuff altogether
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sausy
Jack Charlton MAYO FOR SAM Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Location: The local Status: Offline Points: 6997 |
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I probably have the same and have had the policy since I started my current job back in 2006. Have an excess of €500 which is piss all if anything major is needed. Like some on here people tell me it's a waste of money but having paid it for so long I'll never cancel it as it does provide peace of mind. Comes out from gross pay too like Andy so don't pay full amount really. Work are starting to pay it for us a benefit this year up to €1,500 so will be upping the policy once that comes in.
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Huggybeer
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Mar 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1448 |
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With Laya, through work, try use my allowances each year to stay on top of things, go chiro twice a year to ensure back stays aligned, got reading glasses, a few other things i like corns from FB boots, sorted, have a small excess on each but worth it to keep on top of things now i turned 50 Best thing though is the free on line GP, rarely go local GP any more, couldn't get an appointment anyway |
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32851 |
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Are you sure it comes from Gross pay. As in before you are taxed?
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Huggybeer
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Mar 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1448 |
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Getting old and intolerant
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Baldrick
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Is this where an employer pays a percentage of your total health insurance bill.
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sausy
Jack Charlton MAYO FOR SAM Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Location: The local Status: Offline Points: 6997 |
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Yep 100% comes out before tax. It was a group scheme when I signed up which is how it's done this way I'm guessing.
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Huggybeer
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Mar 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1448 |
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havent looked at payslip in a while only winds me up looking at tax paid,, but think they pay for my health insurance, and I have to pay BIK on it |
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Shedite
Jack Charlton Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9832 |
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(a) get faster appointments - if your GP wants you to go for a test for something, you'll get seen to in a week rather than however number of months it can take public, and as we know, getting diagnosed faster leads to better outcomes (b) money back for some services depending on policy (c) get treatment in nicer hospitals - the likes of Beacon, Mater private etc I never care about the (c) above, if you're the likes of me and can make do with standard hotels, cars etc when you're healthy, I don't see why you need fancy 5* hospitals when you're sick. (c), moneyback is nice, but isn't a reason to get health insurance on its own, it's like car insurance, you never want to have to claim on it. I'd never look at insurance as "did I make money on it this year", it's there for the big events So really it comes down to (a) for me, I've had a few things during the years, little niggles that I wanted to get checked out, dodgy ankle that I wanted a MRI on, got that in 2 days. Felt a lump ina testicle, checked out with a ultrasound that evening, I pay for the peace of mind for those. It's expensive, but health is important to me.
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