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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

I imagine we'll probably get someone out of a job after the Euros. Don't think it'll be O Shea anyway.


Not accounting for sackings / managers resigning, the following are out of contract after the Euros

Sagnol (Georgia)
Sylvinhio (Albania)
Southgate (England)
Yakin (Switzerland)
Iordanescu (Romania)


Albania played some lovely football the day I watched them. Based on that and nothing else, I'd take Sylvinho. 


Gets paid €750K if recent figures for managers wages at the Euros is correct.
That includes around €350,000 of qualification bonuses.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

I imagine we'll probably get someone out of a job after the Euros. Don't think it'll be O Shea anyway.


Not accounting for sackings / managers resigning, the following are out of contract after the Euros

Sagnol (Georgia)
Sylvinhio (Albania)
Southgate (England)
Yakin (Switzerland)
Iordanescu (Romania)


Albania played some lovely football the day I watched them. Based on that and nothing else, I'd take Sylvinho. 


Gets paid €750K if recent figures for managers wages at the Euros is correct.


Pretty sure thats including his qualification bonuses, a lot of places had him on the €500k mark until recently.

Sagnol was also only on around €200k a year but some more recent sources have him on double that, again probably down to qualification.

Its hard to gauge these types of things as theyre not widely published but the 3 of Sagnol, Sylvinhio and Iordanescu are all near the bottom of the wage bill for managers at the Euros.


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Originally posted by DC96 DC96 wrote:

Off topic but while we flounder look what the so called "minnows" are managing to pull off 


In ten years when we're taking a point off this lot in whatever group we're in and people are foaming at the mouth at how we're not trouncing these times, the above is precisely why.

Would make your blood boil. These lads will definitely be overtaking us in the ladder if they haven't already.

Where the feck is all this money our country is supposed to be flooded with in Surplus?
We don't need it put away for a rainy day fund we need it spent now to fix our sub standard investment in sport, major infrastructure projects, housing crisis, health care crisis (the inquest into that girls death is also blood boiling).

Sorry bit of a rant but how the country is ran and so conservative to do big things really pisses me off
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I think the landscape has changed over the last few days. Cooke probably has at least a big a say as Canham in who the next manager will be. According to journos some "Senior" FAI figures want Hughton. I think that's dead in the water as Hughton would have got back to them by now. One journo report stated Cooke is a big fan of Roy Keane. Highly unlikely to happen unless the FAI find a benefactor. Would switch the narrative for the FAI in the short term. But it still looks like O'Shea and you would be surprised by how many people (non football fans) already think O'Shea is Ireland manager. The hammering the FAI are taking will lead to a rash decision. I'm sure of it.
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I wouldn't be ruling out Hughton just yet and I think he could be persuaded. He would be an appointment I wouldn't be either happy or overly disappointed with, especially at this stage. The longer it drags on the more indifferent I am to it. It's a case of the best of a bad bunch now. 
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I thought Hughton was only ruled out by the likes of Kerr because of burnout? The time this is taking he'll be well rested and raring to have a go at another job
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Originally posted by notpropaganda73 notpropaganda73 wrote:

I thought Hughton was only ruled out by the likes of Kerr because of burnout? The time this is taking he'll be well rested and raring to have a go at another job
That's how I'd look at it. The longer we "trust the process" the easier it would be to persuade Hughton into a new opportunity.
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12 hours without an update in the manager thread!?

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424 pages. It'll be 700 by the time Bruce is announced
Danger here, OH NO
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Originally posted by gmfc90 gmfc90 wrote:

424 pages. It'll be 700 by the time Bruce is announced

Nah I reckon lots of people have tuned out.  We don’t care anymore. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by gmfc90 gmfc90 wrote:

424 pages. It'll be 700 by the time Bruce is announced

Nah I reckon lots of people have tuned out.  We don’t care anymore. 

 You have a fair point Baldie , I have given up on whoever they get Cry
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This thread is like mould, it just grows even when there is no activity.
I see Mick is getting a mention again, FFS....do people remember the last time? If I took this long to hire someone for my company (at any level) they would think I just didn't care, or that I am incompetent and in way out of my depth. CEOs for major companies are hired in less than half the time, and their contracts are extremely complicated with bonus structures that would give you a headache to read. The search is now a farce, a joke among European football chat. Can we all just take the summer off from talking on this? ...anyway this thread could be parked for everyone's sanity?
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There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length

the football is a relic of a bygone era.

Since his last stint with the national team

won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league
sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row
lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14

a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster

pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought


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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length

the football is a relic of a bygone era.

Since his last stint with the national team

won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league
sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row
lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14

a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster

pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
Agree ....
Never forget this game;

Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad.
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In fairness, every single manager mentioned on here, who was a realsistic option, is considered inadequate and usually followed by ffs and a laughing or clown emoji, with the exception of Carlsey and he also had his doubters. 

We can be an extremely arrogant fan base at times. 


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Originally posted by nice triangles nice triangles wrote:

Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length

the football is a relic of a bygone era.

Since his last stint with the national team

won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league
sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row
lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14

a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster

pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
Agree ....
Never forget this game;

Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad.

Our blushes saved by Darren Randolph that day.

The 2nd Gib game was equally as bad. We needed an OG and a last minute Brady strike to get over the line, we were awful
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Originally posted by nice triangles nice triangles wrote:

This thread is like mould, it just grows even when there is no activity.
I see Mick is getting a mention again, FFS....do people remember the last time? If I took this long to hire someone for my company (at any level) they would think I just didn't care, or that I am incompetent and in way out of my depth. CEOs for major companies are hired in less than half the time, and their contracts are extremely complicated with bonus structures that would give you a headache to read. The search is now a farce, a joke among European football chat. Can we all just take the summer off from talking on this? ...anyway this thread could be parked for everyone's sanity?

I remember going into the last game of the campaign with qualification in our own hands. 

We drew home and away against Denmark and drew at home against the Swiss. These are results one could only dream of now.

I'm not advocating for Mick to the next Ireland manager.

Edit - just looking at Ireland's top goal scorer for this campaign - Shane Duffy on 1 goal LOL





Edited by horsebox - 23 Apr 2024 at 11:01am
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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length

the football is a relic of a bygone era.

Since his last stint with the national team

won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league
sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row
lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14

a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster

pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought

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