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Seanachie 
Kevin Kilbane 
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That's fair enough but, apart from an ability to dispatch weaker sides, Sagnol hasn't made Georgia any better than they were seven or eight years ago, even when they now have a world-class player. People on here think he would be a good appointment because they see Georgia in the play-offs, The fact is they're only there after negotiating a League C group that we'd expect to win. There's zero evidence to suggest he'd do a good job with us.
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baresi41
Liam Brady 
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And he's assembled ex-Irish internationals in his back room team.. So they'll use the old JD trick when appointing - keep the LOI and people who liked him as a player. Cheap and cheerful - Move on..
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Godzilla
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Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 9:58am |
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He wouldn't be my 1st choice, but I'd be content with a 2 year deal now that Carsley is ruled out. There are no perfect candidates. He'd be a decent option. I'd take him over O'Shea without hesitation. He has international experience at both U21 level and senior level. He's shown that he can adapt to managing a smaller nation. He's used to working with young players, and we have a lot of U23 players. It really wouldn't be a bad appointment. I'd also take Poyet on a 2 year deal. |
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Pinginí
Kevin Kilbane
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Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 10:01am |
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They have Sazonov coming through as well, unit of a CB at Torino. Have a pretty solid spine of a tem there with two likely world class players, more than what we can say. I thought we literally created the Sagnol rumours ourselves here anyway?
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The GerK
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Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 10:01am |
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I was certain it wasn't Carsley for quite a while now and would have always thought O'Shea has a great chance here. Too many seem to take FAI PR speak at face value
Like Horse, Sham and a a couple of others, I'm leaving more and more towards O'Shea. |
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Seanachie
Kevin Kilbane
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Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 10:03am |
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I agree that he's less of a risk than O'Shea but I don't see anything other than another wasted two years with him at the helm. Poyet is far more convincing an option even if I wouldn't be too enthusiastic about him either.
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Sorry guys lets look at the facts. 3 weeks ago or whatever it was Canham said the things were at an advanced stage and an announcment would be made in early April. He then said something along the lines of existing contractual obligations prevented them from announcing it until then, i'm paraphrasing a bit. Now unless at that stage they and Carsley were still in advanced negotiations (although if you believe Carsley they just had a chat and a nice cup of tea, no more) then in no possible world could it be O'Shea. NO WAY HOSE!!!! There is no coming back from that now to say actually John is the best candidate. If this happens then the guy would look absolutely ridiculous to everybody. People come on wake up.
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Godzilla
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Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 10:12am |
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That's the reality we are in. There are no candidates who anyone could be 100% sure of. Not even Carsley. We'll just have to hope for the best. The one plus to a foreign manager/coach is that we usually qualify for tournaments under them. MON is the only manager born on these shores who has qualified for a tournament. #BigWillyStyle
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Green Cockade
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Anthony Barry’s contract situation may be revealing. Presumably he is out at Bayern Munich with Tuchel though he is still working with Portugal. He’s still behind Sagnol and Poyet in the betting so might be a decent value wager.
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giveittochristie
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Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 10:25am |
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Canham said (i know) that the candidate will start working, full time, from April. That was in response to journalists asking if it was someone with a club role.
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Badgersboys9
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I hope it's not O'Shea and I'm not convinced it will be, although my mind is changing on a daily basis. After Kenny, we need some expereince and stability and I dont think O'Shea can bring that.
We were out of the previous campaigns almost immediately so we need someone who can maximise whats available to him and at minimum, at least be competitive in qualifying campaigns. While Carsley fitted the profile, he was also a risk and I think O'Shea is much more of risk. If it was someone coming in with O'Shea's experience and wasn't Irish, we'd be baffled.
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t_rAndy
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I'd be leaning towards O'Shea too because the man in the seat at the moment has a chance.
But the only reason why I wouldn't think he is the front runner is the man who is in charge of the recruitment has said this is the case and someone else is lined up. Now like I also said yesterday, they can always turn around and say that things have changed, e.g. if they can no longer get their Number 1 target. A lot of people are also assuming that we will get 2 good results and that will put O'Shea more in the driving seat. We will most likely lose to Belgium and draw with Switzerland. Edited by t_rAndy - 21 Mar 2024 at 10:39am |
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kevin100
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Tbf they absolutely obliterated that Nations League group. North Macedonia and Bulgaria in it. No mean feat for a team like Georgia and were involved in one of the horror qualifying Groups with Spain,Scotland and Norway. Anything better than 4th would have been an absolute miracle and again they beat Cyprus twice. Got results against Norway and Scotland.
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Godzilla
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Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 10:43am |
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O'Shea would basically going down the Staunton route again. A fairly high profile former player and legend of Ireland.
Staunton played for Liverpool, O'Shea played for United. Both have over 100 caps. Both had/have never managed before. The only difference is that O'She has a few years of actual coaching experience. Staunton had none. |
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Belguim have Lukaku and De Breuyne missing, maybe more. We can take those chumps down town.
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In the press conference to announce O'Shea being the interim Canham was asked if O'Shea was getting the job and he said not this time. I can't find the video of it but if somebody has it then you will see that is what he said.
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Denis Irwin
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Why are some lads still talking about Sagnol.
 His name only cropped up because of someome taking the piss on here and Neil O'Riordan deciding to run with it from reading here.
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Godzilla
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They wouldn't have played anyway. Belgium are set to only use players with a certain amount of caps vs us. Doku, Bakayoko, De Ketelaere and Openda are more than capable. We should be able to cause them some problems at the other end though. They're weaker in defence these days.
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