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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 6:11pm |
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Is the board meeting on & do we know what time ?There's so much noise around this whole thing it is difficult to pick out what you want to know & what is happening vs what people / papers / socials are saying & speculating is happening. An absolute mess. |
Called off. They dont want to deflect attention off the middle east.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 6:18pm |
Not called off as both city and arsenal are in champions league action and the fai didn’t expect that the 2nd legs would be so tight.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 7:47pm |
You couldn't make this all up.
Delaney was bad, but the cowboys involved in fai now since have been a disgrace too.
It was supposed to be a fresh start after delaney, start get irish football going again, but it's been a complete disaster.
Saw an off the ball piece online where they actually said the biggest disgrace from these cowboys is that they still haven't put a detailed proposal to government to get funding to fund academies around the country.
Dan mcd did a good piece last year re horse racing/ greyhound government funding and betting tax money - fai should've jumped on it.
These lads have been useless the last few years
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 7:50pm |
Wheelo wrote:
You couldn't make this all up.
Delaney was bad, but the cowboys involved in fai now since have been a disgrace too.
It was supposed to be a fresh start after delaney, start get irish football going again, but it's been a complete disaster.
Saw an off the ball piece online where they actually said the biggest disgrace from these cowboys is that they still haven't put a detailed proposal to government to get funding to fund academies around the country.
Dan mcd did a good piece last year re horse racing/ greyhound government funding and betting tax money - fai should've jumped on it.
These lads have been useless the last few years
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They did all that, published documents looking for funding etc
The problem is they lost credibility straight away with the Hill Oireachtas visit
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 7:57pm |
giveittochristie wrote:
Wheelo wrote:
You couldn't make this all up.
Delaney was bad, but the cowboys involved in fai now since have been a disgrace too.
It was supposed to be a fresh start after delaney, start get irish football going again, but it's been a complete disaster.
Saw an off the ball piece online where they actually said the biggest disgrace from these cowboys is that they still haven't put a detailed proposal to government to get funding to fund academies around the country.
Dan mcd did a good piece last year re horse racing/ greyhound government funding and betting tax money - fai should've jumped on it.
These lads have been useless the last few years
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They did all that, published documents looking for funding etc
The problem is they lost credibility straight away with the Hill Oireachtas visit
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The link you posted up could've been put together by a work experience transition year student. The argument on off the ball was that there not sufficient detail or substance if you're looking for funding. They are right too.
Dan mcd also said that when he question fai officials on it, they said there were talks ongoing with government. But then he was told from other sources, there were no substantial talks or proposals with the level of detail required with government .
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 8:21pm |
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 8:27pm |
Baldrick wrote:
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible. |
As an aside here, there is an issue with football clubs who don't own their own grounds being then unable to apply for capital grants.
But the core point about their not being a "football lobby" that some other sports have is true.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 8:46pm |
Baldrick wrote:
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible. | Just look at NI and how UEFA is helping them to fund a full time national academy for U15/U16s. Wouldn't surprise me if the FAI haven't even tried to get involved with the UEFA elite youth academy program.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 8:59pm |
The FAI is sure to panic over the coming days so expect to hear names being mentioned that would take the job like Bruce, McCarthy and Hodgson. I don't believe Hughton is interested or we would have heard by now. Bruce was on Talksport yesterday and he is interested in any job. All three mentioned would probably have O'Shea as some type of assistant.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 9:04pm |
Baldrick wrote:
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible. |
I remember being in Economics class and the teacher showed us this picture of some economics magazine cover from early-mid 90s and the captions was a pic of The EIRE and ''Europe's Spongers'' on it. Article was how we were freeloading and milking the EU for cash.
Football doesn't win you votes in Dev's EIRE. Rugby wins you votes among the elite classes and GAA wins you votes among the middle and lower classes in rural areas where dancing at the crossroads and lovely girls competitions remain popular.
Being seen at Sunday mass, then at the local GAA club/intercounty and then at the 6 nations is a recipe for popularity. Throw in the odd misdemeanour which will win you more votes from people who like lovable rogues.
Football is the British game. Wouldn't be popular with FF/FG types especially down the country. The local politicians unless from a real working class area will avoid football like the plague for fear of associating with unsavoury elements of our society. Local tracksuit wearing scumbags, people by the names of Anto, semi literate ragamuffins, coke heads, people wearing Stone Island garments with Adidas trainers, baseball cap wearers, hoodie wearers, lads with chains. People like the St.Pats fan.
These clientele are not going to vote or of they do its in low turnout areas. Associating with said people will not win you friends in high places in the business and tech world when lobbying for investment.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 9:23pm |
Sham96 wrote:
The FAI is sure to panic over the coming days so expect to hear names being mentioned that would take the job like Bruce, McCarthy and Hodgson. I don't believe Hughton is interested or we would have heard by now. Bruce was on Talksport yesterday and he is interested in any job. All three mentioned would probably have O'Shea as some type of assistant. |
I highly doubt they'll panic with those sort of names. If they were going to they'd have done it by now as none are in work. The only one mentioning the likes of Hodgson is yourself, repeatedly.
They know they have O Shea if they want for June so we'll probably end up with him and his set up for June and then whoever in the summer, Sagnol etc
Don't see this mess of a recruitment drive being resolved before then as it stands myself.
Edited by wanderer - 17 Apr 2024 at 9:25pm
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 9:24pm |
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Baldrick wrote:
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible. |
I remember being in Economics class and the teacher showed us this picture of some economics magazine cover from early-mid 90s and the captions was a pic of The EIRE and ''Europe's Spongers'' on it. Article was how we were freeloading and milking the EU for cash.
Football doesn't win you votes in Dev's EIRE. Rugby wins you votes among the elite classes and GAA wins you votes among the middle and lower classes in rural areas where dancing at the crossroads and lovely girls competitions remain popular.
Being seen at Sunday mass, then at the local GAA club/intercounty and then at the 6 nations is a recipe for popularity. Throw in the odd misdemeanour which will win you more votes from people who like lovable rogues.
Football is the British game. Wouldn't be popular with FF/FG types especially down the country. The local politicians unless from a real working class area will avoid football like the plague for fear of associating with unsavoury elements of our society. Local tracksuit wearing scumbags, people by the names of Anto, semi literate ragamuffins, coke heads, people wearing Stone Island garments with Adidas trainers, baseball cap wearers, hoodie wearers, lads with chains. People like the St.Pats fan.
These clientele are not going to vote or of they do its in low turnout areas. Associating with said people will not win you friends in high places in the business and tech world when lobbying for investment.
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Must have been a Tory right wing mag 😀😀.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 10:04pm |
Trap junior wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible. |
I remember being in Economics class and the teacher showed us this picture of some economics magazine cover from early-mid 90s and the captions was a pic of The EIRE and ''Europe's Spongers'' on it. Article was how we were freeloading and milking the EU for cash.
Football doesn't win you votes in Dev's EIRE. Rugby wins you votes among the elite classes and GAA wins you votes among the middle and lower classes in rural areas where dancing at the crossroads and lovely girls competitions remain popular.
Being seen at Sunday mass, then at the local GAA club/intercounty and then at the 6 nations is a recipe for popularity. Throw in the odd misdemeanour which will win you more votes from people who like lovable rogues.
Football is the British game. Wouldn't be popular with FF/FG types especially down the country. The local politicians unless from a real working class area will avoid football like the plague for fear of associating with unsavoury elements of our society. Local tracksuit wearing scumbags, people by the names of Anto, semi literate ragamuffins, coke heads, people wearing Stone Island garments with Adidas trainers, baseball cap wearers, hoodie wearers, lads with chains. People like the St.Pats fan.
These clientele are not going to vote or of they do its in low turnout areas. Associating with said people will not win you friends in high places in the business and tech world when lobbying for investment.
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The FAI received a large rescue package from the state in 2020. Of it didn’t value football it wouldn’t have done so. Perhaps this is more of an issue around football administration in the country, as opposed the the views of the population on the sport, which as I understand is one of the most popular sports in Ireland.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 10:21pm |
wanderer wrote:
Sham96 wrote:
The FAI is sure to panic over the coming days so expect to hear names being mentioned that would take the job like Bruce, McCarthy and Hodgson. I don't believe Hughton is interested or we would have heard by now. Bruce was on Talksport yesterday and he is interested in any job. All three mentioned would probably have O'Shea as some type of assistant. |
I highly doubt they'll panic with those sort of names. If they were going to they'd have done it by now as none are in work. The only one mentioning the likes of Hodgson is yourself, repeatedly.
They know they have O Shea if they want for June so we'll probably end up with him and his set up for June and then whoever in the summer, Sagnol etc
Don't see this mess of a recruitment drive being resolved before then as it stands myself.
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If I was O’Shea I would roll the dice and tell them to shove their interim manager role and say am only going to manage the June friendlies if appointed the permanent manager. That would ramp the pressure up on the FAI even more.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 10:23pm |
wanderer wrote:
Sham96 wrote:
The FAI is sure to panic over the coming days so expect to hear names being mentioned that would take the job like Bruce, McCarthy and Hodgson. I don't believe Hughton is interested or we would have heard by now. Bruce was on Talksport yesterday and he is interested in any job. All three mentioned would probably have O'Shea as some type of assistant. |
I highly doubt they'll panic with those sort of names. If they were going to they'd have done it by now as none are in work. The only one mentioning the likes of Hodgson is yourself, repeatedly.
They know they have O Shea if they want for June so we'll probably end up with him and his set up for June and then whoever in the summer, Sagnol etc
Don't see this mess of a recruitment drive being resolved before then as it stands myself.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 10:24pm |
Het-field wrote:
Trap junior wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible. |
I remember being in Economics class and the teacher showed us this picture of some economics magazine cover from early-mid 90s and the captions was a pic of The EIRE and ''Europe's Spongers'' on it. Article was how we were freeloading and milking the EU for cash.
Football doesn't win you votes in Dev's EIRE. Rugby wins you votes among the elite classes and GAA wins you votes among the middle and lower classes in rural areas where dancing at the crossroads and lovely girls competitions remain popular.
Being seen at Sunday mass, then at the local GAA club/intercounty and then at the 6 nations is a recipe for popularity. Throw in the odd misdemeanour which will win you more votes from people who like lovable rogues.
Football is the British game. Wouldn't be popular with FF/FG types especially down the country. The local politicians unless from a real working class area will avoid football like the plague for fear of associating with unsavoury elements of our society. Local tracksuit wearing scumbags, people by the names of Anto, semi literate ragamuffins, coke heads, people wearing Stone Island garments with Adidas trainers, baseball cap wearers, hoodie wearers, lads with chains. People like the St.Pats fan.
These clientele are not going to vote or of they do its in low turnout areas. Associating with said people will not win you friends in high places in the business and tech world when lobbying for investment.
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The FAI received a large rescue package from the state in 2020. Of it didn’t value football it wouldn’t have done so. Perhaps this is more of an issue around football administration in the country, as opposed the the views of the population on the sport, which as I understand is one of the most popular sports in Ireland. |
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EdisonCavani wrote:
wanderer wrote:
Sham96 wrote:
The FAI is sure to panic over the coming days so expect to hear names being mentioned that would take the job like Bruce, McCarthy and Hodgson. I don't believe Hughton is interested or we would have heard by now. Bruce was on Talksport yesterday and he is interested in any job. All three mentioned would probably have O'Shea as some type of assistant. |
I highly doubt they'll panic with those sort of names. If they were going to they'd have done it by now as none are in work. The only one mentioning the likes of Hodgson is yourself, repeatedly.
They know they have O Shea if they want for June so we'll probably end up with him and his set up for June and then whoever in the summer, Sagnol etc
Don't see this mess of a recruitment drive being resolved before then as it stands myself.
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If I was O’Shea I would roll the dice and tell them to shove their interim manager role and say am only going to manage the June friendlies if appointed the permanent manager. That would ramp the pressure up on the FAI even more. |
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Posted: 17 Apr 2024 at 10:26pm |
Het-field wrote:
Trap junior wrote:
Baldrick wrote:
When Ireland joined the EU, the ECC at the time, it took us a few years to figure out how to apply for structural funds and be successful at it. So much so that in the end we used to regularly get 99% of the possibles funds we could get. Many Irish administrators gave lectures to countries such as Greece and then other countries such as Croatia and Slovenia on how to avail of this funding. No country has ever done it as successfully as Ireland did though.
The FAI need to learn how to avail of funding and take a lead out of Irelands book in relation to EU structural funds. They need to learn how to present it, what to include, build up a network that will support their proposal. They really lack the savvy administrative and political skills to make sure they get as much funding as possible. |
I remember being in Economics class and the teacher showed us this picture of some economics magazine cover from early-mid 90s and the captions was a pic of The EIRE and ''Europe's Spongers'' on it. Article was how we were freeloading and milking the EU for cash.
Football doesn't win you votes in Dev's EIRE. Rugby wins you votes among the elite classes and GAA wins you votes among the middle and lower classes in rural areas where dancing at the crossroads and lovely girls competitions remain popular.
Being seen at Sunday mass, then at the local GAA club/intercounty and then at the 6 nations is a recipe for popularity. Throw in the odd misdemeanour which will win you more votes from people who like lovable rogues.
Football is the British game. Wouldn't be popular with FF/FG types especially down the country. The local politicians unless from a real working class area will avoid football like the plague for fear of associating with unsavoury elements of our society. Local tracksuit wearing scumbags, people by the names of Anto, semi literate ragamuffins, coke heads, people wearing Stone Island garments with Adidas trainers, baseball cap wearers, hoodie wearers, lads with chains. People like the St.Pats fan.
These clientele are not going to vote or of they do its in low turnout areas. Associating with said people will not win you friends in high places in the business and tech world when lobbying for investment.
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The FAI received a large rescue package from the state in 2020. Of it didn’t value football it wouldn’t have done so. Perhaps this is more of an issue around football administration in the country, as opposed the the views of the population on the sport, which as I understand is one of the most popular sports in Ireland. |
They'll give them money but they'll not be seen dead with who they give the money to. Bit like giving money to some homeless beggar. You won't invite him to your wedding though.
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