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His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.

How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

His nickname will have to be Dave. 


Is he Jason's son


No 


If he was he'd be ineligible.


How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  



McAteer qualified for Ireland through a grandparent so is third generation.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.

How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  

That wouldn't allow him to play for Ireland though. Great grandchildren can get citizenship in certain cases as you say, but they can't play for Ireland. Jason qualified through a grandparent so his son would be a generation out (unless of course the son qualified through his mother).
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.

How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  

That wouldn't allow him to play for Ireland though. Great grandchildren can get citizenship in certain cases as you say, but they can't play for Ireland. Jason qualified through a grandparent so his son would be a generation out (unless of course the son qualified through his mother).

If someone has an Irish passport, their children can get one, if they have a passport they can play for the country. Going by that, he'd be fine.

Anyway, moot discussion, couldn't be his soon, we'd have long known. 


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Has he got an English head on him?
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Kasey's Mom Has Got it Goin' On
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.

How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  

That wouldn't allow him to play for Ireland though. Great grandchildren can get citizenship in certain cases as you say, but they can't play for Ireland. Jason qualified through a grandparent so his son would be a generation out (unless of course the son qualified through his mother).

Trust me you are wrong.   Jason has an Irish passport and therefore is an Irish citizen. If Kasey was his son he could get an Irish passport as he would be the son of an Irish citizen. Where they are born is irrelevant.   FIFA allow anyone who is a citizen of a country to play for them.  
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

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[QUOTE=Healy52003][QUOTE=Baldrick]His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.


Trust me you are wrong.   Jason has an Irish passport and therefore is an Irish citizen. If Kasey was his son he could get an Irish passport as he would be the son of an Irish citizen. Where they are born is irrelevant.   FIFA allow anyone who is a citizen of a country to play for them.  
Having an Irish passport wouldn't be enough though. FIFA eligibility criteria specify you'd also have to have been born here, five years residency or parental or grandparental birthplace. Otherwise anybody could play for any country simply through having a passport dished out to them
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If they are an Irish citizen then they can play for Ireland. 
FIFA rules outline it here.  The difference is that we hand out citizenship differently than many other countries.  We hand it out to a child or a grandchild of an Irish citizen as long as that person was an Irish citizen when the child is born.  Most countries don’t do that.  
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Looks a good prospect from the little I've seen. Has good pace anyway. Already scored against Bazunu, Kelleher & Duffy this season.
Some highlights (he's no.35):





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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

If they are an Irish citizen then they can play for Ireland. 
FIFA rules outline it here.  The difference is that we hand out citizenship differently than many other countries.  We hand it out to a child or a grandchild of an Irish citizen as long as that person was an Irish citizen when the child is born.  Most countries don’t do that.  

Did you scroll down as far as article 6? 
ART. 6 NATIONALITY ENTITLING PLAYERS TO REPRESENT MORE THAN ONE ASSOCIATION 
1. A player, who, under the terms of art. 5, is eligible to represent more than one association on account of his nationality, may play in an international match for one of these associations only if, in addition to holding the relevant nationality, he fulfils at least one of the following conditions: a) He was born on the territory of the relevant association; b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant association; c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant association; d) He has lived on the territory of the relevant association for at least five years. 

There's no exemption specially for Ireland to those terms.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.

How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  

That wouldn't allow him to play for Ireland though. Great grandchildren can get citizenship in certain cases as you say, but they can't play for Ireland. Jason qualified through a grandparent so his son would be a generation out (unless of course the son qualified through his mother).

Trust me you are wrong.   Jason has an Irish passport and therefore is an Irish citizen. If Kasey was his son he could get an Irish passport as he would be the son of an Irish citizen. Where they are born is irrelevant.   FIFA allow anyone who is a citizen of a country to play for them.  

Trust me I'm not, you are.

You can qualify for Irish citizenship as a great-grandchild of an Irish born person provided that your parent, the grandchild, obtained Irish citizenship before you were born.

However this does not extend to football. In terms of qualifying through lineage FIFA rules only allow it to go back as far as a grandparent, not a great grandparent. So it's possible to have Irish citizenship and not be eligible to play for Ireland, albeit it's a rare occurrence.
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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Looks a good prospect from the little I've seen. Has good pace anyway. Already scored against Bazunu, Kelleher & Duffy this season.
Some highlights (he's no.35):


Best thing I take away from those clips are the runs into the box hes making and the areas he gets himself into in the box, really top class movement youd expect more from a striker rather than a winger.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.

How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  

That wouldn't allow him to play for Ireland though. Great grandchildren can get citizenship in certain cases as you say, but they can't play for Ireland. Jason qualified through a grandparent so his son would be a generation out (unless of course the son qualified through his mother).

Trust me you are wrong.   Jason has an Irish passport and therefore is an Irish citizen. If Kasey was his son he could get an Irish passport as he would be the son of an Irish citizen. Where they are born is irrelevant.   FIFA allow anyone who is a citizen of a country to play for them.  

He's eligible because of the GFA.
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

His nickname will have to be Dave. 

Is he Jason's son

No 

If he was he'd be ineligible.

How do you know. Jason has an Irish passport therefore is an Irish citizen and would have been an Irish citizen when Kasey was born.  Therefore if he was his Dad he would be entitled to an Irish citizenship and an Irish passport.  

That wouldn't allow him to play for Ireland though. Great grandchildren can get citizenship in certain cases as you say, but they can't play for Ireland. Jason qualified through a grandparent so his son would be a generation out (unless of course the son qualified through his mother).

Trust me you are wrong.   Jason has an Irish passport and therefore is an Irish citizen. If Kasey was his son he could get an Irish passport as he would be the son of an Irish citizen. Where they are born is irrelevant.   FIFA allow anyone who is a citizen of a country to play for them.  

He's eligible because of the GFA.

Was waiting for somebody to mention the GFA as Newryrep's head would then explode.
The GFA has zero impact on eligibility to play for Ireland 
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A cousin of mine is a Leicester fan and he speaks very highly of Kasey. 
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