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Horsey should all songs that cause offence be banned from singing.  If so it’s a very slippery road.  

Newryrep would have many banned for a Starters. 
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I have never heard anyone complain about Zombie being played on the radio, in the pub, anywhere before this weekend.
If anything it usually draws a great response when played as its a catchy tune, Irish one at that and usually gets everyone’s attention and to sing along. 
First time I’ve ever heard of it causing offence. Seems to be just a media culture war driven thing?


Absolutely pathetic. Its a catchy tune. End of. Im sure if you analyzed most songs you could prob come up with a daft reason about something. Who cares. Give you a pain in your head listening to idiots complain about anything.

The issue is basically to do with the fact that Southerners turned a blind eye to the killings, murder and collusion by British state forces and then there is the hierarchy of victims whereby no one batted an eyelid when Catholics children were being murdered, so much so that journalists often spoke about when reporting from the North to the Dublin press office they would be told ' not another Catholic sob story'..

But when it comes to 2 English kids it becomes completely unacceptable. 

But you see, it's not me
It's not my family

Am I misunderstanding, or is your interpretation of those lyrics that "Southerners" did not care because their families weren't dying? My interpretation was always that neither the writer or her family supported the Warrington bombings/IRA terrorism. As in, they didn't want to be tarred with the same IRA brush that a lot of Irish people in the UK were getting tarred with.


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I want just can’t get enough banned as it makes fun of my over eating issue.  
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The irony is that the song was banned by the BBC and in the USA by CBS twenty years ago. They (a) didn’t understand it and ( b) were over-sensitive about images of tanks and guns because of fear of anti-Iraq war sentiment.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Horsey should all songs that cause offence be banned from singing.  If so it’s a very slippery road.  

Newryrep would have many banned for a Starters. 

No, the song is not offensive. I quite like the song myself.

The meaning of it has some historical context which I alluded too in my previous post.

As I said previously, I don't think the song is appropriate myself but I am not really following the rugby as I am not a supporter.

If the rugby crowed had of stuck to FOA, the support of the team might have been more united and it would just leave Ireland's call as the song we should be giving out about!

 
It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me,
He wouldn't set me free,
So he kept me soul for ransom.
na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na.
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Can we ban depeche mode - please and replace with God save Ireland though I do acknowledge it may alienate our Muslim fans  
'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
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Only the Irish could argue about a song. Makes you proud.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Horsey should all songs that cause offence be banned from singing.  If so it’s a very slippery road.  

Newryrep would have many banned for a Starters. 

No, the song is not offensive. I quite like the song myself.

The meaning of it has some historical context which I alluded too in my previous post.

As I said previously, I don't think the song is appropriate myself but I am not really following the rugby as I am not a supporter.

If the rugby crowed had of stuck to FOA, the support of the team might have been more united and it would just leave Ireland's call as the song we should be giving out about!

 

I suspect the vast majority of those giving out about zombie being sung do not give two sh*ts about the rugby team and were never going to shout for them either way.  They had ample opportunity to give out about the song being sung in west Belfast at the feile or at loads of Munster games or at every crappy pub bad every Friday night.  
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Couldn't care less about the song but is there a Zombie equivalent of a bat signal that goes off everytime it's played or something or how do they get ample opportunities to complain?

How is someone to know it was played at Feile over 2 years ago if they weren't there or if they don't follow Munster rugby? 
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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

I daresay most of the  ones who have issues with zombie were still in their da’s ball sack during the troubles and  have no concrot whatsoever that singing up the  ra may hurt its victims and ultimately doing nothing to advance a united ireland to soft unionists 

Give it a rest with that sh*te. There is plenty of young people in the North who are still affected by the troubles and are entitled to their opinion as much as the next person, regardless of their age.

Give Newryrep a break he’s had to deal with Celtic flags flying in his home town.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

I daresay most of the  ones who have issues with zombie were still in their da’s ball sack during the troubles and  have no concrot whatsoever that singing up the  ra may hurt its victims and ultimately doing nothing to advance a united ireland to soft unionists 

Give it a rest with that sh*te. There is plenty of young people in the North who are still affected by the troubles and are entitled to their opinion as much as the next person, regardless of their age.

Give Newryrep a break he’s had to deal with Celtic flags flying in his home town.
Hope the lads in the YBIG Celtic thread managed to get them removed for him. 
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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Couldn't care less about the song but is there a Zombie equivalent of a bat signal that goes off everytime it's played or something or how do they get ample opportunities to complain?

How is someone to know it was played at Feile over 2 years ago if they weren't there or if they don't follow Munster rugby? 




Well Tadgh Hickey from Cork in Munster played the Feile festival in 2021 for one 😀😀😀
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Couldn't care less about the song but is there a Zombie equivalent of a bat signal that goes off everytime it's played or something or how do they get ample opportunities to complain?

How is someone to know it was played at Feile over 2 years ago if they weren't there or if they don't follow Munster rugby? 




Well Tadgh Hickey from Cork in Munster played the Feile festival in 2021 for one 😀😀😀
Well, that's that then. 

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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Couldn't care less about the song but is there a Zombie equivalent of a bat signal that goes off everytime it's played or something or how do they get ample opportunities to complain?

How is someone to know it was played at Feile over 2 years ago if they weren't there or if they don't follow Munster rugby? 




They don't have to know, but it makes their argument look somewhat contrived.
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If you don't follow Munster rugby then you have no business in a rugby thread. Go on out you go..go on

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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Couldn't care less about the song but is there a Zombie equivalent of a bat signal that goes off everytime it's played or something or how do they get ample opportunities to complain?

How is someone to know it was played at Feile over 2 years ago if they weren't there or if they don't follow Munster rugby? 
They don't have to know, but it makes their argument look somewhat contrived.

But, if it's just a song about the the outrage of a bomb in England then you could argue that it's hardly appropriate for a Rugby game? Along the same lines as the people who take issue with Celtic Symphony or the likes being sung at football games?
 
For what it's worth, regardless of the context at the time you still need to take in the reaction it provokes instead of dismissing a whole community and saying you're not allowed to be offended by that because of the atrocity that happened in Warrington. If someone was to turn around and say that bomb was in your head, it would be quite cold, wouldn't it? 

The same can be said how it's understandable how Celtic Sympothy can be hurtful to some. 

I think the whole situation of it being sung at the Rugby is completely innocent and don't have an issue with it myself but if someone in the North has a problem with someone in the south singing a song about its in your head, I don't have an issue with that either. 

Has anyone heard a song by a white South African how apartheid was in South Africans heads?

It's now being crafted into another stick to beat anyone with who has an issue with people outside the North being lectured on violence which is just as pathetic.
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So we should cancel all songs that people have an issue with then.  

How do we decide which songs should be cancelled and which ones not.  Who decides this.  Just because some people are offended by a song does that mean the song should never be sung.  

As I said I think both songs are crap and pretty derisory from both a lyrical and musical perspective but if people want to sing them let them sing them.  The do not break any hate laws etc. so as the Wolfe Tones sing.  Let the People Sing. 
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Is any song suitable.  Fields of Athenry a song about famine and absentee landlords.  

Just can’t get Enough a song about casual sex and clubbing in 1980s London.  

We could go on.  
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