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Originally posted by 10 Box 10 Box wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Azaz,Omobamidele,Connell,Coventry all notable omissions?

What is the story with Omobamidele? With rumours of a transfer is that his focus over the next week or two? Fair enough if it is.

Also the lack of urgency to bring in fresh faces into the midfield places compared to other areas on the pitch has been a bit disappointing particularly now we have a few playing well and making progress like Connell and Coventry. 

Also no disrespect to McLoughlin who is an honest pro no doubt but with the CB options we have it would be absolutely ridiculous having him on the pitch as anything other then 9th choice.


Omobamidele is injured and Connell is still involved in the play offs.
 

Fair on Connell sorry. Omabamidele loves a niggly injuries.

I'm sure he doesn't.
 

He gets plenty niggly injuries for a lad so young would be a slight concern
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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Interesting squad and good to see the likes of Cannon and McNamara in there. Mark McGuinness is a surprising omission though and I hope it's not a case that he turned down a call up or anything like that. Obviously we have a lot of centre backs, but his ceiling is absolutely miles above Sean McLoughlin's.

Interesting also that he's bringing over two keepers from Ireland to make up the numbers rather than digging any deeper into the GK pool in England (e.g. Jack Bonham at Stoke). But to be fair, after the three regular keepers and O'Leary, there's a big drop off in quality anyway.

Hourihane's omission presumably confirms the end of his international career. Azaz clearly not on the senior radar at this point in time, but I'd rate him ahead of Farrugia personally.

What an opinion. McLoughlin is a better player than McGuinness imo and can't see that changing any time in the future either. Smashing defender who had the advantage of being left footed and comfortable on the ball the same I feel cannot be said of McGuinness who is an old fashioned type and liable to make a mistake quite often.

Wouldn't agree with that tbh. McLoughlin is a solid Championship defender who has probably hit his ceiling, he's not good enough on the ball to go much higher. McGuinness has EPL potential, good size and mobility and very comfortable in possession.
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From the FAI press release:

"Jeff Hendrick and Alan Browne will miss the four-day training camp as they recover from injury but are expected to be in contention for the Greece and Gibraltar matches in June.

Chiedozie Ogbene will report for the camp to continue his assessment and rehabilitation from a hamstring injury whilst Andrew Omobamidele, Callum Robinson and Seamus Coleman have all been ruled out of the upcoming qualifiers through injury.

Middlesbrough defender Darragh Lenihan and Peterborough United midfielder Jack Taylor will not be involved with the training camp due to their club's participation in the EFL play-offs.

All Premier League players remain in action for their clubs as well as Mikey Johnston at Vitoria de Guimaraes, Jamie McGrath at Dundee United and Matt Doherty at Atlético Madrid who continue their domestic seasons."

Interesting that McNally whose had a great 2023 wasn't name checked alongside Lenihan and Taylor.
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Azaz,Omobamidele,Connell,Coventry all notable omissions?

What is the story with Omobamidele? With rumours of a transfer is that his focus over the next week or two? Fair enough if it is.

Also the lack of urgency to bring in fresh faces into the midfield places compared to other areas on the pitch has been a bit disappointing particularly now we have a few playing well and making progress like Connell and Coventry. 

Also no disrespect to McLoughlin who is an honest pro no doubt but with the CB options we have it would be absolutely ridiculous having him on the pitch as anything other then 9th choice.


Omobamidele is injured and Connell is still involved in the play offs.
 

Fair on Connell sorry. Omabamidele loves a niggly injuries.


Don't think Connell would have been named anyway as wasn't name checked alongside Lenihan and Taylor as two who were missing because of the play offs.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

From the FAI press release:

"Jeff Hendrick and Alan Browne will miss the four-day training camp as they recover from injury but are expected to be in contention for the Greece and Gibraltar matches in June.

Chiedozie Ogbene will report for the camp to continue his assessment and rehabilitation from a hamstring injury whilst Andrew Omobamidele, Callum Robinson and Seamus Coleman have all been ruled out of the upcoming qualifiers through injury.

Middlesbrough defender Darragh Lenihan and Peterborough United midfielder Jack Taylor will not be involved with the training camp due to their club's participation in the EFL play-offs.

All Premier League players remain in action for their clubs as well as Mikey Johnston at Vitoria de Guimaraes, Jamie McGrath at Dundee United and Matt Doherty at Atlético Madrid who continue their domestic seasons."

Interesting that McNally whose had a great 2023 wasn't name checked alongside Lenihan and Taylor.
 

McNally and Ebosele not being namechecked is very strange.
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Maybe in the Premier League/other leagues paragraph they just name checked players that were in the last squad - McGrath, Johnston and Doherty. These blurbs are sometimes just written by the PR lads, I wouldn't necessarily read too much into it.

Would be interested to know about Szmodics though. Currently on a golfing holiday in Portugal apparently.
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So can we put all this 'Kenny hating Ryan Manning' stuff to rest 
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Sammie Szmodics not interested in playing for the Eire?
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Sammie Szmodics not interested in playing for the Eire?
Probably not. 27, uncapped and unlikely to ever be a nailed on starter. Gets to spend an extra month or so a year with his family or doing whatever he wants.
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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

So can we put all this 'Kenny hating Ryan Manning' stuff to rest 

Not really. It's only a training camp. If he hadn't called him up, he would have been criticised. 

Calling him up and then snubbing him for Greece and Malta is still a possibility.
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Managers 'snubbing' players has always happened. 

You could look back through every squad in the last 50 years and pick out a particular player whereby the supporters think player X should have been included instead of player Y.


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I would have called up Andy Lyons and Finn Azaz if they are fit.

Warren O'Hora might have been worth a look at as well.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Managers 'snubbing' players has always happened. 

You could look back through every squad in the last 50 years and pick out a particular player whereby the supporters think player X should have been included instead of player Y.

Yeah. Doesn't make the manager right though.

Lampard didn't fancy Doucouré at Everton. Dyche brught him in from the cold and he's now given Everton a chance at staying up.

Eze wasn't Vieira's favourite player at Palace. Since Hodgson returned, Eze has made a show of Vieira with his performances.

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Looking through that, there are no huge surprises

GK - No real issue. I dont see the point in bringing over the 2 Irish based lads mid-season though, could have had a look at the likes of Bonham, McGinty, Harrington. 
WB - No problem with Farrugia's inclusion, looks a good player, but it's a bit of a kick in the teeth for Andy Lyons who bit the bullet, made the leap and scored 4 or 5 Chship goals since January. 
CB - Good to see Mc Loughlin get recognition after a good season, but as others have said McGuinness and perhaps Cashin had strong claims also. 
CM - Disappointing not to see Coventry but may be injury related, ditto Azaz (although why not invite them in for a chat) 
ST - Good to see Cannon called up, but dont think he will make the final squad. Keane perhaps surprisingly seems to remain in the plans. Assuming Connolly remains injured.

Could spell the end of the line for Brady, Stevens, Hourihane, Hogan, Szmodics and Jack Byrne

No real issues, Lyons, Coventry and Azaz the  surprising omissions, but at least 2 of those may be injury related.


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The manager has to make that decision - and it's easy to say a player X could have played better than player Y. Especially when player Y doesn't have a particularly good game.


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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

I would have called up Andy Lyons and Finn Azaz if they are fit.

Warren O'Hora might have been worth a look at as well.


Has just been relegated to League Two. You've other lads like Dunne and McGuinness who'd easily be ahead of him.

Even in League One could even name Paudie O'Connor ahead of him whose a year older and had a decent first season at League One level. Sean Roughan another whose played LCB for Lincoln and long term that's probably his best position. Could be on the move to the championship this summer.

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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

I would have called up Andy Lyons and Finn Azaz if they are fit.

Warren O'Hora might have been worth a look at as well.

Agree on the first 2 and add Coventry to that list also.

Dont agree wit the other, O'Hora has just been relegated to L2, not saying he's bad player, but he's not particularly young. Lads like Dunne, McGuinness and Cashin certainly deserve to be there ahead of him.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

I would have called up Andy Lyons and Finn Azaz if they are fit.

Warren O'Hora might have been worth a look at as well.


Has just been relegated to League Two. You've other lads like Dunne and McGuinness who'd easily be ahead of him.

Even in League One could even name Paudie O'Connor ahead of him whose a year older and had a decent first season at League One level. Sean Roughan another whose played LCB for Lincoln and long term that's probably his best position. Could be on the move to the championship this summer.

Liam Scales and even Dan Casey too although SPL players werent considered.
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