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    Posted: 20 Jul 2023 at 9:34am
https://www.the42.ie/tg4-league-of-ireland-6121629-Jul2023/

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The League of Ireland needs a regular spot on TV so it can build an audience.

RTÉ broadcasts games haphazardly throughout the season so you have no idea if a game is on from week to the next. Their former highlights programme was also terrible. If you were to give RTÉ domestic football coverage a title it would be: designed to fail.

Compare that to TG4, and what they have done with club GAA.

When the Women's World Cup was on in France a few years ago, I thought TG4 provided the best commentary, when compared to RTÉ and BBC. Their commentators definitely seemed to enjoy the games more than the other channels.

My Irish is good enough, however, even if you can't understand it, once the commentary has a bit of life about it it can work.
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Has it not been offered to them previously and they’ve shown no interest?

Would be hugely in favour of them having exclusivity because RTE are incapable of giving the league any significant airtime.

TG4 are by a distance the best sport broadcaster in Ireland. As already mentioned their GAA coverage is sensational, especially the club and women’s games. But they also have covered rugby, woman’s football, basketball and racing in the past few months alone. Given their stretches resources as it is, do they have capacity for LOI? The FAI certainly won’t help them out
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

I've always thought the biggest problem with live LOI is the reluctance to move games for TV audience. Sky and the PL took off with Super Sunday and Monday Night Football, live games on between crap teams when there was nothing else on TV. We show a live Friday night game when the majority of LOI fans are another games (or watching them on LOI go). If they could find a regular slot for the live game that worked, Saturday evening football (5.30) or Thursday nights maybe, you'd get a bigger audience.

What about looking after the interests of the fans who actually go to games?
Surely that should be priority number one - If you start down the route you are proposing then you end up where you are now in England with games being scheduled on an ongoing basis were fans can't get home by public transport after games due to the mad times they are being played at
Absolutely agree, I've always maintained that European football is a TV show, domestic football is an event and we should keep it that way. I've never worried about the lack of TV coverage. I'm only proposing what I think would have to happen for a TV-friendly product, you basically have to replicate the English 3pm blackout or go down the Spanish/Italian route of kick-off times scattered all over the weekend, neither which I'd favour
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

I would argue that the massive increase in interest in both ladies football and club hurling and football is almost exclusively down to the efforts of TG4 over the past two decades 
agree. it's not a huge market compared to the men's inter-county as yet but the explosion in the women's game especially should be credited to TG4. 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Listening to games in Irish just wouldn't fly with people. Unless they done them in English. Big Friday night games should be on RTE. Cup games should be covered also. You wouldn't even need to have them on every week but usually RTE show a few at the start and a few closer to the end. Need a bit more consistency. A highlights show would be perfect aswell.

Why should they? TG4 have a pretty specific remit. Why should they sacrifice that? 

Saying it wouldn't fly with people is just wrong imo. People love TG4s coverage of the GAA, Irish speakers and non-speakers alike. And if you're a fan of LOI and have free access to watch the games, why would you turn your nose up at it? 

to answer the OP, I would say this comes down to money. TG4 don't have a huge pot and need to be pretty targeted with what they're going after. I agree though, I think it'd be a great move, their sports coverage is top quality across the board imo
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I would argue that the massive increase in interest in both ladies football and club hurling and football is almost exclusively down to the efforts of TG4 over the past two decades 
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

But sure TG4 have been covering sport for years, in Irish, with great successful 

Well yes but wud the viewing figures be huge? Unlikely. maybe some of the main GAA matches. Even watching a GAA match in Irish isnt ideal. Its our own language but i would suspect a lot of people would feel the same. If were looking to grow interest in LOI the TG4 isn't the spot for it IMO.
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But sure TG4 have been covering sport for years, in Irish, with great successful 
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Listening to games in Irish just wouldn't fly with people. Unless they done them in English. Big Friday night games should be on RTE. Cup games should be covered also. You wouldn't even need to have them on every week but usually RTE show a few at the start and a few closer to the end. Need a bit more consistency. A highlights show would be perfect aswell.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

I've always thought the biggest problem with live LOI is the reluctance to move games for TV audience. Sky and the PL took off with Super Sunday and Monday Night Football, live games on between crap teams when there was nothing else on TV. We show a live Friday night game when the majority of LOI fans are another games (or watching them on LOI go). If they could find a regular slot for the live game that worked, Saturday evening football (5.30) or Thursday nights maybe, you'd get a bigger audience.

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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

I've always thought the biggest problem with live LOI is the reluctance to move games for TV audience. Sky and the PL took off with Super Sunday and Monday Night Football, live games on between crap teams when there was nothing else on TV. We show a live Friday night game when the majority of LOI fans are another games (or watching them on LOI go). If they could find a regular slot for the live game that worked, Saturday evening football (5.30) or Thursday nights maybe, you'd get a bigger audience.

What about looking after the interests of the fans who actually go to games?
Surely that should be priority number one - If you start down the route you are proposing then you end up where you are now in England with games being scheduled on an ongoing basis were fans can't get home by public transport after games due to the mad times they are being played at
Agree. 
Also fans that go to games will always go to games, they’re not exactly the market. Tv coverage should be about growing the game, a weekly Friday night fixture on tg4 would be excellent and once given time & consistency the viewing figures will grow. 
RTE expecting decent viewing figures when the live fixtures are completely at random and not really advertised is silly 
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

I've always thought the biggest problem with live LOI is the reluctance to move games for TV audience. Sky and the PL took off with Super Sunday and Monday Night Football, live games on between crap teams when there was nothing else on TV. We show a live Friday night game when the majority of LOI fans are another games (or watching them on LOI go). If they could find a regular slot for the live game that worked, Saturday evening football (5.30) or Thursday nights maybe, you'd get a bigger audience.

What about looking after the interests of the fans who actually go to games?
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I've always thought the biggest problem with live LOI is the reluctance to move games for TV audience. Sky and the PL took off with Super Sunday and Monday Night Football, live games on between crap teams when there was nothing else on TV. We show a live Friday night game when the majority of LOI fans are another games (or watching them on LOI go). If they could find a regular slot for the live game that worked, Saturday evening football (5.30) or Thursday nights maybe, you'd get a bigger audience.
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by saintjoey saintjoey wrote:

TG4 had games years ago but only showed a few a year

I don't get it, there has to be something more to this because they are more than willing to show club football, FBD league, camogie, women's interleague rugby, and Women's National League, so they'd have to be willing to take on something that, in my view, would garner better viewing figures?

I doubt they'd pay much for it. 
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Originally posted by saintjoey saintjoey wrote:

TG4 had games years ago but only showed a few a year

I don't get it, there has to be something more to this because they are more than willing to show club football, FBD league, camogie, women's interleague rugby, and Women's National League, so they'd have to be willing to take on something that, in my view, would garner better viewing figures?
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Has it not been offered to them previously and they’ve shown no interest?

Would be hugely in favour of them having exclusivity because RTE are incapable of giving the league any significant airtime.
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