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Badgersboys9
Ray Houghton Joined: 12 Oct 2019 Status: Online Points: 3468 |
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Without context maybe. Its 24 people.
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E2016
Liam Brady Joined: 13 Jan 2016 Location: Cork Status: Online Points: 1732 |
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Definitely crucial for the manager to have a clue about our domestic leagues what with all the call ups that we see from it. Even a LOI manager won't pick those players. If the next manager has never heard of St Pat's it won't make a jot of difference in his ability to manage the senior team. And a trophy . Get John Caulfield on the buzzer, he got himself a few trophies too.
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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10825 |
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What we need is a manager with a track record of overachieving with a committed but limited group of players.
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Roberto Baggio
Robbie Keane UNBELIEVABLE JEFF Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 37292 |
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Jim Goodwin being mentioned widely on this thread, jaysus
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SeaSharp
Liam Brady Joined: 09 Jun 2022 Location: Ingerlund Status: Offline Points: 1856 |
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doherty
Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Online Points: 7695 |
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Ah me bollix. So far hes done a decent job at St Mirren. Thats about it. Aberdeen should be in or around 3rd every year in the SPL. Prob be fighting with Hearts for that this year. Im not suggesting he might not be a good manager but the logic of Kenny OMG no but what you might call a middle of the road SPL manager Yes please does not make sense to me. If were dumping Kenny due to what some people might say not a big enough CV i would want a bigger name than Goodwin
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I love beer gardens
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Roberto Baggio
Robbie Keane UNBELIEVABLE JEFF Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 37292 |
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Do we really want rid of Kenny who’s highest achievement in Britain is getting a team to the Scottish cup final to replace him with something similar?
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TooOldForThis
Liam Brady Joined: 07 Sep 2020 Status: Online Points: 1196 |
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SeaSharp
Liam Brady Joined: 09 Jun 2022 Location: Ingerlund Status: Offline Points: 1856 |
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Goodwin kept Alloa up in the 2nd tier despite all the players being part time. We could do with somebody that has even a bit of a track record for overachieving with limited resources.
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grannyrule
Ray Houghton Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Location: Parts Unknown Status: Online Points: 4680 |
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Jim Goodwin shouldn't be within an asses roar of the Irish Senior job. That would just be an appointment akin to Stephen Kenny.
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The only way is up
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Roberto Baggio
Robbie Keane UNBELIEVABLE JEFF Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 37292 |
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FFS we’re talking about Alloa now
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Territorial
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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That misunderstands O'Neill. At heart he's a pragmatist. Meaning that for his first four years with NI, when all our best players were defenders (4 or 5 PL-standard CB's alone), his teams were defensive. Also had Chris Brunt to take set pieces, and Kyle Lafferty on a run of form to provide a target man up front. But after the 2016 Euro's a lot of the old guard were in decline, or even retired, while the best new young players coming through were more attack-minded, midfielders etc. As a result, he switched to a more attacking, possession-based style. This reached its peak in 2019 at home to Germany, where Lowe admitted that NI had completely outplayed Germany in the first half, such that he had to switch his tactics and personnel at H-T to try to deal with it. And even then, after Germany got a fortunate goal early in the second half, they were hanging on to their lead, until Gnabry got a second from a breakaway, 5 mins from the end. I hadn't believed it possible to be so proud after a 2-0 home defeat as that evening, and Michael was the architect. I suspect that right now, ROI need someone to organise them like MO'N did for NI in 2013, but in any case it's hypotheteical, since the NI job is there for the taking for Michael, and I can't see any way he'd turn it down for ROI.
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GaretFarellysNutSack
500 Club la la la Joined: 11 Mar 2020 Status: Offline Points: 552 |
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It's going to be Christ f'n Houghton I know it, and it'll be the same bunch of awful players just playing as conservative as possible trying to hold teams to draws and lashing long balls up the pitch. We still wont qualify and it will be even worse to watch.
Our players can't trap a ball or cross a ball or pass it forward most of the time, there's just no talent. And none coming through that can do anything at this level. Remember USA used to come to Lansdowne for friendlies every now and again and we'd usually look a class apart. Last time even I think we put 4 past them, Robbie Brady scored. They looked like they were from a different planet tonight and we're just not getting close to that level in my lifetime in my opinion. Unless we get ridiculously lucky and get a couple of top class players just by chance. It's hopeless.
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Roberto Baggio
Robbie Keane UNBELIEVABLE JEFF Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 37292 |
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Well everyone’s pretty much been tried at this stage, as has playing a more non-conservative style, and it hasn’t gone too well |
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Fitz
Liam Brady Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Location: Oileán Ciarraí Status: Offline Points: 2708 |
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Agreed; nowhere near it.
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GaretFarellysNutSack
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Exactly. It's hopeless. We are minnows now regardless of who's in charge.
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Shermanator1
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 11 Jul 2020 Location: New Jersey, USA Status: Offline Points: 199 |
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Precisely! Michael O'Neill assessed his team's relative strengths and weaknesses, and developed a style that allowed them the greatest opportunity to be successful. They were disciplined, difficult to break down, spirited, and had a bite to them. Whereas Stephen Kenny came in with a philosophy and style that he has insisted his players conform to, regardless of their talents or ability to do so. Michael is a pragmatist. Stephen is a dreamer. Sadly the dream has become a bit of a nightmare. Is there anyone out there who honestly wouldn't feel more confident of our chances to ultimately reach a major tournament with Michael O'Neill at the helm rather than S.K.?
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PaddyMaddenIsCounty!
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 22 Oct 2022 Location: Macclesfield Status: Offline Points: 197 |
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Dobt think we getting to tournament with this squad whether o neill or kenny. Football under o neill ended up depressing despite grinding out results, football bit better in stages under kenny but results depressing and he seems to have regressed n become more conservative trying to turn results around but it’s not his style and situation is becoming a farce. Ok saying blooding odd young players but they struggling at club level even in championship. Kenny or no kenny, pragmatism or principle, until our youth fulfill potential at club level the present will always be bleak.
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