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amazes me how much focus and effort young English born players get in comparison to Irish born players in the 6 counties. incredibly frustrating. another young Irishman from Coleraine called up by the North i believe. the focus and action needs to change and change big time, we are supposed to be a 32 county team!!
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Fair point. You’re referring to Paddy Kelly of West Ham, a midfielder who has been called up by Michael O’Neill along with his club mate Callum Marshall, a striker. Two youngsters who are likely to be fast tracked by NI as others like Conor Bradley and Shea Charles have been recently. The FAI needs to be more aware of lads like these and check them out.
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Yes, Conor Bradley is definitely a loss to us.  He's already an exciting player and I believe he has a high ceiling.

Don't see why we can't concentrate properly on both categories - six counties lads and parent/grandparent lads. It's not either-or.


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What are we supposed to do with those players though - it would be ridiculous to give them senior callups, they'd be miles off our senior squad at the moment? If they're jumping to the NI senior squad at the first available opportunity and not waiting to see whether they're good enough for us in the future or not, the reality is that they mustn't consider themselves that Irish in any case. 
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:


What are we supposed to do with those players though - it would be ridiculous to give them senior callups, they'd be miles off our senior squad at the moment? If they're jumping to the NI senior squad at the first available opportunity and not waiting to see whether they're good enough for us in the future or not, the reality is that they mustn't consider themselves that Irish in any case. 


Especially when you consider Sean Moore would have likely gotten a senior call up had he stayed with NI but switched to be involved with our U19s instead.
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Who's to say either of those NI lads had any interest in playing for us?
Or that they weren't approached but would not have made our U19 squads anyway?

Both are NI underage internationals and getting bumped to the seniors so fast is great for them.

The Moore thing shows we are active over the border.

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If they really wanted to play for us they could make themselves known to the relevant people within the FAI.


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They are youngsters. If English born kids with Irish grannies can be pursued, it makes sense to be pro-active with lads up the road. I thought Kelly might be a potential switch, Marshall unlikely though. Sean Moore is due to join them at West Ham in August when he turns eighteen.
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How the f**k would he have evidence? If there was evidence it wouldn't be covered up. Why people on here act like they were born yesterday is beyond me. Read between the lines. 
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

If they really wanted to play for us they could make themselves known to the relevant people within the FAI.



so the onus is on the player to contact the national association? is this the same policy towards english born players? it’s ridiculous that we are not pro actively looking at irish players born in the Northern territory.


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Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

If they really wanted to play for us they could make themselves known to the relevant people within the FAI.


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so the onus is on the player to contact the national association? is this the same policy towards english born players? it’s ridiculous that we are not pro actively looking at irish players born in the Northern territory.


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If Cannon is available - if - and Kenny doesn’t cap him vs. Gibraltar, then, it’s on Kenny. If the lad turns it down, off with him. 

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Originally posted by Fitz Fitz wrote:

If Cannon is available - if - and Kenny doesn’t cap him vs. Gibraltar, then, it’s on Kenny. If the lad turns it down, off with him. 
If fit and willing, he should be starting alongside Ferguson against Greece. 
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Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

If they really wanted to play for us they could make themselves known to the relevant people within the FAI.



so the onus is on the player to contact the national association? is this the same policy towards english born players? it’s ridiculous that we are not pro actively looking at irish players born in the Northern territory.

I'm just saying it's an avenue the player can pursue. These players don't have to play for NI if they want to play for the ROI. Nobody is putting a gun to their head.

The FAI are usually quite good at this to be fair.
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The players have to want to switch first and foremost. The player must submit a request to FIFA if they want to switch associations and the FAI facilitates that. Its becomming a generational thing now, there's fellas that wouldn't entertain the possibility of putting on that jersey and there's a younger crew now that just want to play football at the highest standard regardless of politics or their background.

I don't know how proactive the FAI are but a lot of young lads are finding it an easier path via the IFA route.
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i think what it really boils down to is the question of why players born in the 6 need to “switch”. there should be structures in place where the options are open playing for Fai teams from
the get go, the exact same way players from the 26 are afforded.

the fact that the IFA has basically a monopoly on northern players is madness. something big has to change 
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They only need to "switch" if they already played competitivly underage from the North. There's nothing stopping them playing for us from the get-go. They have the same eligibility as any lad born in the Republic.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John Nice Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2023 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

i think what it really boils down to is the question of why players born in the 6 need to “switch”. there should be structures in place where the options are open playing for Fai teams from
the get go, the exact same way players from the 26 are afforded.

the fact that the IFA has basically a monopoly on northern players is madness. something big has to change 

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