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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

i think what it really boils down to is the question of why players born in the 6 need to “switch”. there should be structures in place where the options are open playing for Fai teams from
the get go, the exact same way players from the 26 are afforded.

the fact that the IFA has basically a monopoly on northern players is madness. something big has to change 

A Nation Once Again - One League, One team. Unfortunately, I'd say we could still have 2 teams on the island even if a United Ireland came about, such is the lack of vision in both the IFA and the FAI, each protecting their own interests to the detriment of the beautiful game across the island. In my view the FAI should look at inviting a Belfast team to participate in the League of Ireland, a la Derry City, that might help as regards the player situation. There is also an obvious issue with European qualification, given each association has 4 spots.

IFA would never approve this which they would have to do. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

i think what it really boils down to is the question of why players born in the 6 need to “switch”. there should be structures in place where the options are open playing for Fai teams from
the get go, the exact same way players from the 26 are afforded.

the fact that the IFA has basically a monopoly on northern players is madness. something big has to change 

A Nation Once Again - One League, One team. Unfortunately, I'd say we could still have 2 teams on the island even if a United Ireland came about, such is the lack of vision in both the IFA and the FAI, each protecting their own interests to the detriment of the beautiful game across the island. In my view the FAI should look at inviting a Belfast team to participate in the League of Ireland, a la Derry City, that might help as regards the player situation. There is also an obvious issue with European qualification, given each association has 4 spots.

IFA would never approve this which they would have to do. 

And therein lies the problem, the IFA and the FAI are never going to agree on anything full stop and nobody is going to invest serious money in developing an all Ireland League while that scenario remains.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

i think what it really boils down to is the question of why players born in the 6 need to “switch”. there should be structures in place where the options are open playing for Fai teams from
the get go, the exact same way players from the 26 are afforded.

the fact that the IFA has basically a monopoly on northern players is madness. something big has to change 

A Nation Once Again - One League, One team. Unfortunately, I'd say we could still have 2 teams on the island even if a United Ireland came about, such is the lack of vision in both the IFA and the FAI, each protecting their own interests to the detriment of the beautiful game across the island. In my view the FAI should look at inviting a Belfast team to participate in the League of Ireland, a la Derry City, that might help as regards the player situation. There is also an obvious issue with European qualification, given each association has 4 spots.

IFA would never approve this which they would have to do. 

And therein lies the problem, the IFA and the FAI are never going to agree on anything full stop and nobody is going to invest serious money in developing an all Ireland League while that scenario remains.

But the IFA are right to protect their league
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

i think what it really boils down to is the question of why players born in the 6 need to “switch”. there should be structures in place where the options are open playing for Fai teams from
the get go, the exact same way players from the 26 are afforded.

the fact that the IFA has basically a monopoly on northern players is madness. something big has to change 

A Nation Once Again - One League, One team. Unfortunately, I'd say we could still have 2 teams on the island even if a United Ireland came about, such is the lack of vision in both the IFA and the FAI, each protecting their own interests to the detriment of the beautiful game across the island. In my view the FAI should look at inviting a Belfast team to participate in the League of Ireland, a la Derry City, that might help as regards the player situation. There is also an obvious issue with European qualification, given each association has 4 spots.

IFA would never approve this which they would have to do. 

And therein lies the problem, the IFA and the FAI are never going to agree on anything full stop and nobody is going to invest serious money in developing an all Ireland League while that scenario remains.

But the IFA are right to protect their league

But their league, just like ours is going nowhere fast! An all island League (with a binding agreement from UEFA to continue to allow 4 representatives from each of the associations qualify for Europe - there could be some kind of internal mechanism for each of the associations to award their places - I assume the Dutch/Belgians must have had some such kind of arrangement when they were looking to merge, so it cant be impossible) is potentially a way forward. There are roughly 7mn on the island now (5 down here and another 2 up there) - compare that to Scotland's population (5.5mn). There's no reason why we couldnt build a competitive successful league structure with a bit of vision (and investment).
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 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-tom-cannon-preston-breaking-27072165

Preston ideally want him on loan again next season.


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Not surprised and I'd say a few more championship clubs will be after him. He's probably better off out on loan as Everton will likely be a sh*t show again next season imo. Be lucky to avoid relegation again. Likely fourth choice if he stays at Everton and if one of the experienced strikers leave they'll surely want to replace them with another experienced striker if possible.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Not surprised and I'd say a few more championship clubs will be after him. He's probably better off out on loan as Everton will likely be a sh*t show again next season imo. Be lucky to avoid relegation again. Likely fourth choice if he stays at Everton and if one of the experienced strikers leave they'll surely want to replace them with another experienced striker if possible.

Much as I'm not a fan of the Bitters, I'd expect Dyche (who I'm also not fan of) with a full pre-season and a few of his own players brought in to have them in better shape next season. He'll build a functional well organised team that are difficult to beat and he should keep them away from the relegation scrap. 

In Cannon's favour is the fact that he's the type of striker Dyche likes, big, strong lad, but the problem is, as you say, that he's unlikely to trust him as even the 2nd choice at his age, so I'd agree a loan would be best from our pov (defection fears aside). Why not Preston again, at least he's familiar with the set up there and it clearly suits him plus their form in the 2nd half of the season was decent, they could easily trouble the play off spots again and there continues to be a decent Irish presence at the club..
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Wouldn't necessarily say he's a typical Dyche striker, he's about 5'11 and not overly robust. His game is mostly based around pace and playing on the shoulder of the last defender.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Wouldn't necessarily say he's a typical Dyche striker, he's about 5'11 and not overly robust. His game is mostly based around pace and playing on the shoulder of the last defender.

Looked good in the air and willing to take defenders on physically in the handful of games I have watched. Looked very strong for a 20yo up against experienced Championship defenders. Looks like a central target striker to me.
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Linked with a transfer to England in the S*n.
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Linked with a transfer to England in the S*n.
Let him slide. But some of the Ireland setup seriously need to wake up.
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Linked with a transfer to England in the S*n.


Theres almost more photos than there are paragraphs in that "article" and 3/4 of it is about Rice and Grealish with old quotes from Martin O'Neill LOL

Such a load of bollocks.

If there was anything to it, they wouldn't be running the "story" Saturday evening an hour before the Champions League final either.
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That Tracker account on twitter saying he has deleted Irish related appearances stuff from his Instagram

If he is gone then just be gone. Not more of this death by 1000 cuts sh*te
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Yep he is gone then.
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Pretty confident he’ll never make it with England! If he does choose to play for their 21s he shouldn’t be allowed to come back and play for us in a few years when he realises he’s not good enough for England. 
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Won’t get near England 
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Ah well thats probably that then. Won't pay him any more attention.
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