Tom Cannon

Ah apologies for simplifying the rules.
The whole "having the nationality of the team you are switching to before playing a match for the other country" thing is key.

It won't the same way Smallbone, Coventry, and Azaz can still play for England as they already qualifed to play for England before they turned 21. They just can't gain a new nationality and play for that country.[/QUOTE]
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As YTM said they now only need the one cap as they're gone 21[/QUOTE]

Edited by You Tell Me - 13 Jun 2023 at 5:33pm

Some lads on here actually advocating throwing on a player at the end of a competitive match just to cap tie them. You can't force people play for you through some kind of slight of hand. Is it any wonder other fans laugh at us when you here desperate sh*te like that? 

Fozz wrote: You Tell Me wrote: That approach won't work in most cases because most granny rulers become ineligible for us if they play for another country's under 21 team after their 21st birthday. So, if you didn't bring in Hodge or Cannon at a younger age, then they played for England under 21s after their 21st birthdays (which most under 21 players do) then that makes them ineligible for us. That's interesting as Hodge turns 21 on the 14th of September. Two days after we play our last match in Sept...but with the next match in October...so D-Day for him is fast approaching. Festy is 21 in August so the September matches would tie him down. Again, I am as convinced as can be about these two lads but hey, no harm having it rubber-stamped. And remember all the furore over Okoflex...he's already 21.

You Tell Me wrote: That approach won't work in most cases because most granny rulers become ineligible for us if they play for another country's under 21 team after their 21st birthday. So, if you didn't bring in Hodge or Cannon at a younger age, then they played for England under 21s after their 21st birthdays (which most under 21 players do) then that makes them ineligible for us.

Edited by Fozz - 13 Jun 2023 at 4:50pm

Maybe we are going about it the wrong way. Perhaps we should wait till these lads are 20/21 who may or may not have been capped by England & are no longer getting picked as frequently ot at all in their underage squads. Liam Delap for instance.. say he doesn't progress to the 21's from the 20's (nothing to say he won't) but is still playing at a decent level...approach him. If he switches then he's tied.

t_rAndy wrote: I'd like to wait for the meeting and until then forget about him. Like if he comes back after summer and says no actually I'm sticking around then I'll welcome him back with open arms.  If its a case of wanting to wait and see how his career progresses then I'd say "nah good luck". As soon as he plays for England competitively at any level that's him tied isn't it?

Why do the likes of Cannon not reject these call ups 2/3 years ago when they are first contacted. That’s the time to be honest and say I believe I’m good enough to play for England so thanks for the call but I’m happy to wait and play for the country of my birth . I’d respect that. I don’t don’t have much time for the likes of Cannon and the way these players have used us . Anyway there’s every chance some of our current batch of young strikers will turn out to be as good as him . 

Edited by Liam Green - 13 Jun 2023 at 4:25pm