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Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

There are some utter whoppers on here to be posting pathetic gifs and telling people to f*ck themselves because they've mentioned one of the best Irish managers of the past 20 years potentially managing the national side. 

Some proper losers.

Hughton is a top manager.

We'd be lucky to have him.


why doesn't he have a Prem job? Championship job?

his brand of football is toxic
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Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

some embarassing nonsense written here.

kenny has done a great job and finally has us playing some high quality football

it would be a terrible mistake to throw that all away now

fat sam would set us back 10 years.

Who mentioned BIG SAM?

only you.

Its not Big Sam or Kenny.

What is kennys competitive win %m???
It ain't 'great'
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Still feel we are a couple of players short though.  Doesn't look like we will really have anyone else stepping into the team between now and the next campaign so this is kind of it . 
Obafemi maybe could get a bit better I hope

Smallbone, Idah, Connolly, maybe Festy

Just to add also, this is a young team that is going to improve, ffs we had 7 starters under 23 tonight and people are banging on about consistency. Kenny has assembled a really good young group of lads, results will fluctuate as they settle into international football, but anyone advocating his dismissal for Chris f**king Hughton has to be on smack! Especially after a performance like that. Go have a lie down!

Pros for Kenny: Assembled a young hungry group that is improving
  Has us playing a decent brand of                                                                        The players seen to believe in him

Negatives for Kenny: Poor results that aren't improving.
             Three campaigns and failed to beat anyone                                             In game management not great
             We fail to build any real consistency
                We seem a little soft mentally not holding leads
               Our best performances come when pressure is off
                                      


Edited by Stickittotheman - 24 Sep 2022 at 11:14pm
Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

He’s such a top manager he’s currently unemployed for 12 months after being sacked by Nottingham Forrest when they were bottom of the championship. Nottingham Forrest who now play in the premier league LOL 

Stephen Kenny is such a top manager that was sacked from Shamrock Rovers and they are now the best team in Ireland and playing European group stage football. LOL

About as relevant as whatever that nonsense was that you somehow thought sounded good in your head before you posted it. Sometimes things dont work out at clubs. To act like to have a failure on your cv automatically makes someone a bad manager is insanely moronic.
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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Still feel we are a couple of players short though.  Doesn't look like we will really have anyone else stepping into the team between now and the next campaign so this is kind of it . 
Obafemi maybe could get a bit better I hope

Smallbone, Idah, Connolly, maybe Festy

Just to add also, this is a young team that is going to improve, ffs we had 7 starters under 23 tonight and people are banging on about consistency. Kenny has assembled a really good young group of lads, results will fluctuate as they settle into international football, but anyone advocating his dismissal for Chris f**king Hughton has to be on smack! Especially after a performance like that. Go have a lie down!

Pros for Kenny: Assembled a young hungry group that is improving
                             Has us playing a decent brand of football
                             The players seen to believe in him

Negatives for Kenny: Poor results that aren't improving.
                                      Three campaigns and failed to beat anyone of note
                                      In game management not great
                                      We fail to build any real consistency
                                      We seem a little soft mentally not holding leads
                                      Our best performances come when pressure is off
                                      

Keeping Kenny for Euros could potentially prevent this group for qualifying for anything.

Euros in 24

WC next to impossible to qual

Next euros is 2028

Keeping Kenny is an enormous gamble
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

He has 6 wins from 27 games.

The only embarrassing comment is yours claiming he has done a great job. It's a results business. At some point he has to get them. This moral victory sh*te cannot go on indefinitely.

We've the worst squad of players probably ever, he's doing a good job given the circumstances. 
If you're old enough to remember AERTEL in the 90s and early 2000s, there'd be Green scorers every weekend in the Premier League. Now we're hoping someone who can't score in the Championship gets us our goals. 
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 Just to be clear, if Kenny resigned tmw, I'd have no particular beef with people putting forward the likes of Hughton or O'Neill as options. Wouldn't be on my list though - Barry, Eusrace, Carsley.  I do have a beef with lads putting their name forward right now however, after our last 3 performances, I think it's bizarre tbh! Get behind this exciting young team and manager for the Euros. If it all goes tits up, by all means advocate for Hughton or whomever, but can we not just give it a f**king rest for now!
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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

There are some utter whoppers on here to be posting pathetic gifs and telling people to f*ck themselves because they've mentioned one of the best Irish managers of the past 20 years potentially managing the national side. 

Some proper losers.

Hughton is a top manager.

We'd be lucky to have him.


why doesn't he have a Prem job? Championship job?

his brand of football is toxic

Stephen kenny has never and will never have a job in either of those leagues ffs. LOL what kind of point are you trying to make?
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Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by Heimatklange Heimatklange wrote:

some embarassing nonsense written here.

kenny has done a great job and finally has us playing some high quality football

it would be a terrible mistake to throw that all away now

fat sam would set us back 10 years.

Who mentioned BIG SAM?

only you.

Its not Big Sam or Kenny.

What is kennys competitive win %m???
It ain't 'great'
big sam always gets wheeled out as a replacement to kenny

people seem to think our lads are incapable of kicking a football and need and industrial english manager to help us to kick the ball as high and hard as we can.

big sam is not the answer.
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

He’s such a top manager he’s currently unemployed for 12 months after being sacked by Nottingham Forrest when they were bottom of the championship. Nottingham Forrest who now play in the premier league LOL 

Stephen Kenny is such a top manager that was sacked from Shamrock Rovers and they are now the best team in Ireland and playing European group stage football. LOL

About as relevant as whatever that nonsense was that you somehow thought sounded good in your head before you posted it. Sometimes things dont work out at clubs. To act like to have a failure on your cv automatically makes someone a bad manager is insanely moronic.
Stephen Kenny left Rovers 10 years ago you head banger LOL
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Originally posted by GaretFarellysNutSack GaretFarellysNutSack wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

He has 6 wins from 27 games.

The only embarrassing comment is yours claiming he has done a great job. It's a results business. At some point he has to get them. This moral victory sh*te cannot go on indefinitely.

We've the worst squad of players probably ever, he's doing a good job given the circumstances. 
If you're old enough to remember AERTEL in the 90s and early 2000s, there'd be Green scorers every weekend in the Premier League. Now we're hoping someone who can't score in the Championship gets us our goals. 

The results even in the circumstances cannot be considered good. We've lost and drawn to some terrible teams.

Tonight's performance was decent. Not many denying that. But we've lost again. We've made our task for the euros much harder with our poor nations league results. Qualification for the euros was supposed to be the target. 

At some point we have to start winning games. It isnt going to be like turning on a lightbulb, the Euro quals start in a few months and we are all of a sudden going to have to be consistent and getting results to be there or thereabouts.

Any time there is a hint of progress we go out and lose. It's so deflating.
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

He’s such a top manager he’s currently unemployed for 12 months after being sacked by Nottingham Forrest when they were bottom of the championship. Nottingham Forrest who now play in the premier league LOL 

Stephen Kenny is such a top manager that was sacked from Shamrock Rovers and they are now the best team in Ireland and playing European group stage football. LOL

About as relevant as whatever that nonsense was that you somehow thought sounded good in your head before you posted it. Sometimes things dont work out at clubs. To act like to have a failure on your cv automatically makes someone a bad manager is insanely moronic.
Stephen Kenny left Rovers 10 years ago you head banger LOL

And?

Hughton failing at Forest doesnt make him a bad manager. Managers can fail at jobs and still be good managers and be good with other teams afterward. 

You made an utterly moronic point. It's alright. 
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Do people think that even if we did change manager we would suddenly be winning these games?? Kenny cannot make Parrott score that chance or any of the countless chances we have missed since he took over. We look a real danger on the counter attack now. Just need someone to finish the chances. Easier said  than done.
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by GaretFarellysNutSack GaretFarellysNutSack wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

He has 6 wins from 27 games.

The only embarrassing comment is yours claiming he has done a great job. It's a results business. At some point he has to get them. This moral victory sh*te cannot go on indefinitely.

We've the worst squad of players probably ever, he's doing a good job given the circumstances. 
If you're old enough to remember AERTEL in the 90s and early 2000s, there'd be Green scorers every weekend in the Premier League. Now we're hoping someone who can't score in the Championship gets us our goals. 

The results even in the circumstances cannot be considered good. We've lost and drawn to some terrible teams.

Tonight's performance was decent. Not many denying that. But we've lost again. We've made our task for the euros much harder with our poor nations league results. Qualification for the euros was supposed to be the target. 

At some point we have to start winning games. It isnt going to be like turning on a lightbulb, the Euro quals start in a few months and we are all of a sudden going to have to be consistent and getting results to be there or thereabouts.

Any time there is a hint of progress we go out and lose. It's so deflating.

Just what do you think Chris Hughton would to improve that? Wise up and get behind the young lads. Results are the goal, but we are bloodied young lads and with that comes inconsistency. We have just put together 3 very good performances on the bounce against teams whose level we are aspiring to. Baz, Nat, Dara, Jason, Jayson, Troy, Michael all 23 or under, 7 of the starting 11. Dozie and Josh are 25ish. Have some patience ffs!

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Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

There are some utter whoppers on here to be posting pathetic gifs and telling people to f*ck themselves because they've mentioned one of the best Irish managers of the past 20 years potentially managing the national side. 

Some proper losers.

Hughton is a top manager.

We'd be lucky to have him.


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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Do people think that even if we did change manager we would suddenly be winning these games?? Kenny cannot make Parrott score that chance or any of the countless chances we have missed since he took over. We look a real danger on the counter attack now. Just need someone to finish the chances. Easier said  than done.
No he can’t make parrot score but his changes did hinder us from scoring more this cost us a result and that lies with him.

And so far we have in the main no result.

Im not saying get rid of him but the alternatives have to be looked at now as now is the right time to change if we are going to change 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Do people think that even if we did change manager we would suddenly be winning these games?? Kenny cannot make Parrott score that chance or any of the countless chances we have missed since he took over. We look a real danger on the counter attack now. Just need someone to finish the chances. Easier said  than done.

We usually lose or draw the games where we play poorly and we often lose or draw games that we have done enough to win.

The combination of those two things is really not good.

There are improvements in our patterns of play. But over nearly 30 games the results have not been good enough and they arent getting much better. That's why it's a very difficult situation. At some point he has to start getting consistent results. Otherwise what the f*ck are we doing?
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Originally posted by GaretFarellysNutSack GaretFarellysNutSack wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Houghton. Go and fook yourself he who mentions his name. 

Yes he may bring stability and Trap type of team but who f*cking wants that again? We don't have any top players and it's unlikely we will have any, any time soon, so Kennyball for me is our best option right now. 
Will we ever get an Alaba or Odegaard or Hamsik, like other small countries have? Who was the last top player we had?

I think we have a great chance of a generational talent emerging soon, given the sheer quantity of very good young players coming through!
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