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He really is an outstanding young prospect.

His numbers from last night's game are impressive:

Minutes played - 89
Touches - 64
Shots - 2
Shooting accuracy - 100%
Goals - 2 goals
Passing accuracy - 90%
Key passes - 1
Long balls - 3/3
Ground duels - 14/18 won
Aerial duels - 1/2 won
Dribbles - 5/6 completed
Was fouled - 3 times
Tackles - 6
Fouls committed - 1



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Had a part to play in all 3 goals. Both goals were very well taken. 
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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

He really is an outstanding young prospect.

His numbers from last night's game are impressive:

Minutes played - 89
Touches - 64
Shots - 2
Shooting accuracy - 100%
Goals - 2 goals
Passing accuracy - 90%
Key passes - 1
Long balls - 3/3
Ground duels - 14/18 won
Aerial duels - 1/2 won
Dribbles - 5/6 completed
Was fouled - 3 times
Tackles - 6
Fouls committed - 1



 

Let’s hope he can follow Sarmiento and Buonanotte on loan now. really want to see him go to the Championship like those two. 

Seen a number of lads on Twitter mention USG in Belgium but they are in Europe with Brighton so would be illegal as far as I’m aware. 
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Going on loan to Blackburn. Medical there tomorrow.
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Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.
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Should be a good move for him hopefully. Gilsenan needs to get out on loan now.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.

If they're seeing him as a winger instead of a CAM, I'd be worried. That's the aul chestnut when it comes to number 10 type players. Can't accommodate you in the middle, so let's put you on the wing. I remember Jack Byrne got that a lot when teams would revert to more direct style. You stick them on the wing, and then everyone wonders why they're a bit sh!te Confused 
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Should be a good move for him, decent club at a good standard. If he's as good we hope he is, he'll make a decent impression and get enough game time in his best position.
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.

If they're seeing him as a winger instead of a CAM, I'd be worried. That's the aul chestnut when it comes to number 10 type players. Can't accommodate you in the middle, so let's put you on the wing. I remember Jack Byrne got that a lot when teams would revert to more direct style. You stick them on the wing, and then everyone wonders why they're a bit sh!te Confused 

I'm generally fairly sceptical about these number 10 type footballers and how effective they actually are in senior football - they usually need to be absolutely unbelievable at what they do for teams to justify finding a place for them instead of just going for another Jason Knight box to box type, but if there's one player of that type in the Irish setup that I think has a chance of making it, it's Moran.
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Playing on the left or right of a three in a 4-2-3-1 within a possession based team that plays the majority of the game past the halfway line is fine for players who are central players.

Brighton do it very well. Enciso has played on the left and Buonatte has played on the right.

It's the same at City with Foden and Bernardo Silva playing wide.

Moran has played pretty much every attacking position since joining Brighton.
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.

If they're seeing him as a winger instead of a CAM, I'd be worried. That's the aul chestnut when it comes to number 10 type players. Can't accommodate you in the middle, so let's put you on the wing. I remember Jack Byrne got that a lot when teams would revert to more direct style. You stick them on the wing, and then everyone wonders why they're a bit sh!te Confused 
II think he means they see Gilsenan as a winger, not Moran.

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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.


If they're seeing him as a winger instead of a CAM, I'd be worried. That's the aul chestnut when it comes to number 10 type players. Can't accommodate you in the middle, so let's put you on the wing. I remember Jack Byrne got that a lot when teams would revert to more direct style. You stick them on the wing, and then everyone wonders why they're a bit sh!te Confused 


Apologies if it was unclear but was talking about Gilsenan that they see more as a wide player than someone who plays centrally. Not Moran, though do think he could get minutes out wide but more so as a wide player that cuts back inside to link up with players.

Himself and Szmodics have different styles so will be interesting to see how he gets on at Blackburn. Do wonder if Szmodics could play deeper making room for both players in the midfield trio.
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Moran is incredibly versatile he was often deployed up top for Brighton last year as well. A young lad called Leonard started up top for them the weekend while Hedges and Dolan played on the wings.

Don’t get the impression any of these lads are undroppable for Blackburn every chance he can displace them from the starting 11 quite early.

Exciting to see how he does. 


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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.

Where you getting this information?
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.


Where you getting this information?


About Holland and Germany? Fabrizio Romano mentioned it when tweeting about the loan to Blackburn.

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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.


If they're seeing him as a winger instead of a CAM, I'd be worried. That's the aul chestnut when it comes to number 10 type players. Can't accommodate you in the middle, so let's put you on the wing. I remember Jack Byrne got that a lot when teams would revert to more direct style. You stick them on the wing, and then everyone wonders why they're a bit sh!te Confused 


Apologies if it was unclear but was talking about Gilsenan that they see more as a wide player than someone who plays centrally. Not Moran, though do think he could get minutes out wide but more so as a wide player that cuts back inside to link up with players.

Himself and Szmodics have different styles so will be interesting to see how he gets on at Blackburn. Do wonder if Szmodics could play deeper making room for both players in the midfield trio.

Szmodics has played a fair amount of football as a 2nd striker/no.9 as well, so I wouldn't expect he'll lose out in any case.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Apparently had offers from Holland and Germany too but Brighton chose Blackburn due to their possession based style.

Will be fighting it out with Szmodics for a starting spot but can also cover out wide. Likely pushes Gensilen down the pecking order. Think Blackburn see him as a winger rather than a CAM, though he could cover that role if needed.


If they're seeing him as a winger instead of a CAM, I'd be worried. That's the aul chestnut when it comes to number 10 type players. Can't accommodate you in the middle, so let's put you on the wing. I remember Jack Byrne got that a lot when teams would revert to more direct style. You stick them on the wing, and then everyone wonders why they're a bit sh!te Confused 


Apologies if it was unclear but was talking about Gilsenan that they see more as a wide player than someone who plays centrally. Not Moran, though do think he could get minutes out wide but more so as a wide player that cuts back inside to link up with players.

Himself and Szmodics have different styles so will be interesting to see how he gets on at Blackburn. Do wonder if Szmodics could play deeper making room for both players in the midfield trio.


Szmodics has played a fair amount of football as a 2nd striker/no.9 as well, so I wouldn't expect he'll lose out in any case.


Even if Szmodics was to lose out wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for us as would mean Moran getting regular game time at a good level.
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