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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:


Relegated teams: Bournemouth, Brentford (second season syndrome), Fulham


SSS doesn't exist - at least in the sense of being some sort of intrinsic "thing".

Remember, twice as many newly promoted clubs get relegated after one season as do after two.

Does that mean First Season Syndrome is also a "thing", only bigger?

The explanation is that If you look at teams which get promoted, it has generally taken them around 3 seasons/100 games-odd to build their promotion-winning team.

Which is also the natural "shelf-life" of teams, after which they need to be rebuilt. But whereas top teams like Man City or Liverpool are continually rebuilding their team as they go along, lesser teams do not have that luxury, meaning that no sooner have they built a team than they have to rbuild it again.,

And for promoted teams it is harder again to improve a team in the PL than one in the Championship, even with the riches gained on getting promotedl, since there are far fewer genuinely PL-standard players to be had, those that are available may be reluctant to join a promoted team, while there are 19 other PL teams competing for the talent which is available, most of whom can outbid the new teams, with some of them even having the luxury of sticking them in their reserves

Worse still, the three promoted teams, esp the play-off winners, can never be sure they're going to get promoted until April or May, meaning they don't have time, and only one window, to sign new players.

Of course, some clubs simply throw money at the problem by signing loads of players but more often than not this fails, both because not all the the signings can be up to it, or even if they are, because the disruption is inimical to building a stable, cohesive team. Forest anyone?

But having said all that, I would be pretty confident that Brentford will be able to buck the trend, basically because everything they do is long term, meaning that even before they got promoted, they were already planning for life in the PL and having got there, as their DoF recently confiemed, they've been confident of survival since February, giving them a head start over half a dozen of their PL rivals, plus Fulham, Bournemouth and Forest, in planning their signings for this summer.

An exceptionally stable, well-run club.



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Champions: Liverpool

Rest of top Four: Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham

Relegated teams: Bournemouth, Nottingham Forest, Leeds

Top scorer: Harold Kane

Top assists: Kevin de Bruyne

Players player of the year: Van Dijk

Young players player of the year: Phil Foden

First manager sacked: Eddie Howe

FA Cup Winner: Chelsea

League cup winner: Manchester City

Any other predictions: Spain to win world cup, England to flop in it

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Champions: Man City

Rest of top Four: Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U

Relegated teams: Bournemouth, Brentford (second season syndrome), Fulham

Top scorer: Haaland

Top assists: de Bruyne

Players player of the year: de Bruyne

Young players player of the year: Haaland

Manager of the year: Pep

First manager sacked: Hassenthutl 

FA Cup Winner: Liverpool 

League cup winner: Man United 

Any other predictions: Leeds and Southampton to be deep in the relegation mix but survive, Forest to be nowhere near the relegation places, a bit like Sheffield United the time they came up a few seasons ago. Southgate's stock to be a lot lower after England don't win the World Cup.



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Champions: Liverpool

Rest of top Four: Man City, Spurs, Chelsea

Relegated teams: Bournemouth, Everton, Southampton

Top scorer: Salah

Top assists: TAA

Players player of the year: Salah

Young players player of the year: Haaland

Manager of the year: Klopp

First manager sacked: Lampard

FA Cup Winner: Spurs 

League cup winner: Man Utd

Any other predictions: Germany to win the World Cup

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Champions: Man City
Rest of top Four: Scouse, Chelsea, Spurs

Relegated teams: Everton, Bournemouth, Fulham

Top scorer: Bamford
Top assists: Jack Harrison

Players player of the year: Brenden Aaronsson

Young players player of the year: Joe Geldhart

Manager of the year: Jesse Marsh

First manager sacked: Lampard

FA Cup Winner: Leeds

League cup winner: Leeds

Any other predictions: I don't make predictions
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Champions: M.City. Or Liverpool. Hell, I dont know which. Dead heat?

Rest of top Four: Spurs and Chelsea. Probably.

Relegated teams: Everton. And in no particular order, any two from Fulham, Bournemouth, Leeds and Forest.

Top scorer: Darwin Nunez? (If not, Harry Kane)

Top assists: Heung Min Son? (Yes, I'm horribly biased)

Players player of the year: No idea. De Bruyne?

Young players player of the year: Even less iof an idea.

Manager of the year: "Antonio, Antonio, Antonio..."

First manager sacked: Bruno Lage? (Totally left-field guess)

FA Cup Winner: Liverpool?

League cup winner: Liverpool? (I know, boring, aren't I)

Any other predictions: Everton to sack Fat Frank, but only after they've scraped together his redundo package. Which could take some time. Newcastle to struggle to make top half, putting Howe's job in question at seasons end. Oh and M.City finally to win the Champions League. The bastards.



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Saints and Everton have starts where if they don’t pick up early points they’ll be in for a long hard season.
A poor start for Everton could see Frankie boy out the door which might be to Everton’s benefit.
Leeds also if they don’t get early points will be in for a rough ride.

Relegation: Saints, Fulham and Bournemouth.

Most looking forward to Stevie G being found out as just an average manager.

Man United are hard to gauge for top 4 - fancy them to win the europa league and Artetas Arsenal to blow top 4 and europa league as they’ve done under him previously.

Liverpool to win the league.


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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Brentford could be a one season wonder like Sheff Utd were.  Eriksen off now so we'll see how thry do.   Thomas Frank good lad but said was same about David Wagner.

Thomas Frank has the most secure job in the PL*. And if by some disaster, they were to go down, he'd have the most secure job in the Championship. That's because they have the most secure, and therefore most stable, owner in either division.

But they won't go down.

* - OK, maybe after Klopp. Or Guardiola. LOL

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Leeds could go down.

Very possibly - it all depends on whether Marsch is the manager they hope him to be. I personally have no firm opinion on that this early in his tenure, but he's certainly got a helluva job on his hands to cope without Phillips and Raphina.

However I will say one thing, had Bielsa stayed even a month longer, they would have gone down last season, since he - and his team - had completely run out of energy and ideas and he was much too stiubborn to do anything about it.


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Young players player of the year:  Matt Doherty


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Champions: Liverpool 

Rest of top Four: Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal

Relegated teams: Leeds, Bournemouth, Southampton 

Top scorer: Haaland

Top assists: De Bruyne

Players player of the year: Salah

Young players player of the year: Haaland

Manager of the year: Klopp...Cooper to run hom close

First manager sacked: Hassenhuttl

FA Cup Winner: City

League cup winner:  Chelsea

Any other predictions: Fulham and Forest to surprise people and stay up comfortably. Saints struggle to recover from an awful start but Bazunu to be a rare bright spark. Liverpool and City have another Titanic struggle for the title but have a good few more dropped points than last year. United to start off well but tail away horribly near the end

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Brentford could be a one season wonder like Sheff Utd were.  Eriksen off now so we'll see how thry do.   Thomas Frank good lad but said was same about David Wagner.

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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Relegated teams:  Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford

Bournemouth and Fulham perhaps, but Brentford?

I can actually see them improving on last season's 13th position by a place or two this time round - exceptionally well-run club, who've already had a good transfer window.

They’ve lost their best player.

I was wondering who'd be first to point that out.

Fact is, they were 14th when Eriksen played his first game for them February, never having been in the bottom three at any stage.

And while he was outstanding in his 11 appearances, adding extra points they wouldn't otherwise have gained, nonetheless the points per game stats from their previous games suggest they'd still have survived without those points.

And what is regualrly overlooked is that the damage caused by the loss of gk David Raya in mid-season arguably cost BFC as many points as those gained by Eriksen, to whit:
First 9 PL games with Raya: 12 points = 1.33 ppg
Next 14 games without Raya: 11 points = 0.79 ppg;
Final 15 games with Raya = 23 points = 1.53 ppg.

Now granted 11 of those last 15 games also included Eriksen, but the team's whole style of play is built around Raya and his ability with his feet, wherther building from the back or pinging long balls to midfield or attack.

Meanwhile, if Josh Dasivla can recover completely from the career-threatening injury which kept him out virtually all of last season (big "if", admittedly), then he will surprise a few by just how good a deputy he can be in filling the Eriksen gap.

Of course I'm not saying he's anywhere nearly as good as Eriksen, nor that he ever will be, but he undoubtedly has it in him to be a top PL creative midfielder, fitness-permitting.

And if he does, I predict that BFC could even sneak into the top half (just).
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Relegated teams: Burnley 

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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Relegated teams:  Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford

Bournemouth and Fulham perhaps, but Brentford?

I can actually see them improving on last season's 13th position by a place or two this time round - exceptionally well-run club, who've already had a good transfer window.

They’ve lost their best player.
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Relegated teams: Burnley 

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Relegated teams:  Bournemouth, Fulham, Brentford

Bournemouth and Fulham perhaps, but Brentford?

I can actually see them improving on last season's 13th position by a place or two this time round - exceptionally well-run club, who've already had a good transfer window.
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Champions: Liverpool 

Rest of top Four: Man City, Spurs, Arsenal

Relegated teams: Burnley 

Top scorer: Kane

Top assists: Trent Arnold 

Players player of the year:  De Browne

Young players player of the year: Bazunu

Manager of the year: Fwank

First manager sacked: Fwank

FA Cup Winner: Man United

League cup winner: Spurs

Any other predictions:Jesus will walk on water and score lots of goals for Arsenal 
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Champions: Man City

Rest of top Four: Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal

Relegated teams: Fulham, Southampton, Bournemouth

Top scorer: Kane

Top assists: Kane

Players player of the year: Kane

Young players player of the year: Nathan Collins

Manager of the year: Conte

First manager sacked: Hasselhoofenhoffle

FA Cup Winner: Man Utd

League cup winner: Spurs

Any other predictions: Spurs to finish second. 

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