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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



At a basic level, its a pretty safe country without much risk of serious natural disaster. We have quality food. There’s good living and educational standards. The people are generally friendly. There’s a decent social scene. There are very high levels of employment including lots of well paid work. There is a thriving sports scene. That’s off the top of my head

a lot of credit goes to tj whittaker for the vision that eventually put ireland on the road to prosperity but imo as much praise should go to ernie o'malley for going on a solo run as minister for education in the 60s and making education free to all. that decision above all others imo changed ireland forever and is the reason why today we enjoy the prosperity we do. 

my grandfather used to tell a story to my father about how he finished primary school on a particular  friday evening in the 40s. of the 12 in the class just 1 received a scholarship to continue on with second level education with the monks in the village, the other 11 started thinning beat on the monday morning in the abbeys farm. most of them eventually immigrated and many died young, my grandfather being one of them having died in his 50's. the majority of todays kids will go on to 3rd level education, some will do apprenticeships but very few will go on to do unskilled labour. we've come a long way.

Obviously things are better nowadays compared to that but I think we have become complacent about our education system. I think it is a little overated, too many of my friends have fancy certs from fancy colleges which are essentially useless.
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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



At a basic level, its a pretty safe country without much risk of serious natural disaster. We have quality food. There’s good living and educational standards. The people are generally friendly. There’s a decent social scene. There are very high levels of employment including lots of well paid work. There is a thriving sports scene. That’s off the top of my head

a lot of credit goes to tj whittaker for the vision that eventually put ireland on the road to prosperity but imo as much praise should go to ernie o'malley for going on a solo run as minister for education in the 60s and making education free to all. that decision above all others imo changed ireland forever and is the reason why today we enjoy the prosperity we do. 

my grandfather used to tell a story to my father about how he finished primary school on a particular  friday evening in the 40s. of the 12 in the class just 1 received a scholarship to continue on with second level education with the monks in the village, the other 11 started thinning beat on the monday morning in the abbeys farm. most of them eventually immigrated and many died young, my grandfather being one of them having died in his 50's. the majority of todays kids will go on to 3rd level education, some will do apprenticeships but very few will go on to do unskilled labour. we've come a long way.
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Some other quality Irish artists that I haven't seen mentioned on this thread are the Boomtown Rats Sawdoctors The Thrills Horslips Inhaler and SLF.
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Gary Moore too, himself and Rory Gallagher are 2 of the all time greatest guitar players ever.
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

looks like he knows as much about Irish music as he does about Irish football. 

A lot of those artists listed are an acquired taste IMO; did The Cranberries have much success apart from Linger? And the majority of them were formed around fifty years ago. In terms of musical output, I'd argue we're punching under our weight, if anything, over the last however many years. IDK if The Pogues count as an Irish band since a lot of their members are British, but I'll throw them in with U2 and Sinead. Enya has a few decent tracks as well.

Not even their biggest hit ffs LOL
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Friendliest people in the world
Outstanding scenery
People passionate about their sport
Ireland has produced some world class musicians
Guinness Tullamore Dew Bulmers etc 
Ballinskelligs
Some fantastic restaurants and pubs.

From the eighties on.
 
U2, Sinead O'Connor, surely I'm forgetting someone?

U2 are the only Irish band on my playlist, and I have a pretty broad taste in music.

Not a fan of Irish folk music HH?
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Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

looks like he knows as much about Irish music as he does about Irish football. 


A lot of those artists listed are an acquired taste IMO; did The Cranberries have much success apart from Linger? And the majority of them were formed around fifty years ago. In terms of musical output, I'd argue we're punching under our weight, if anything, over the last however many years. IDK if The Pogues count as an Irish band since a lot of their members are British, but I'll throw them in with U2 and Sinead. Enya has a few decent tracks as well.



Cranberries sold 50 million albums.  If you are using sales as a metric, westlife, the corrs, van Morrison, boyzone, enya, hozier, Sinead o Connor Thin Lizzy have all sold bucket loads. 

Not to mention artists such as Rory Gallagher, Paul Brady, My Bloody Valentine, The Undertones, Whipping Boy, Glen Hansard/The Frames, Snow Patrol who can certainly hold their own.  

That’s not even to mention our huge folk tradition.  

Finally we also have newer pop musicians which may not be to everyone’s taste such as Dermot Kennedy, Gavin James, Kodaline, Walking on Cars and The Script who are popular with some.  



And don't forget Fontaines DC for those of us that prefer music with a bit of an edge

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Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

looks like he knows as much about Irish music as he does about Irish football. 


A lot of those artists listed are an acquired taste IMO; did The Cranberries have much success apart from Linger? And the majority of them were formed around fifty years ago. In terms of musical output, I'd argue we're punching under our weight, if anything, over the last however many years. IDK if The Pogues count as an Irish band since a lot of their members are British, but I'll throw them in with U2 and Sinead. Enya has a few decent tracks as well.



Cranberries sold 50 million albums.  If you are using sales as a metric, westlife, the corrs, van Morrison, boyzone, enya, hozier, Sinead o Connor Thin Lizzy have all sold bucket loads. 

Not to mention artists such as Rory Gallagher, Paul Brady, My Bloody Valentine, The Undertones, Whipping Boy, Glen Hansard/The Frames, Snow Patrol who can certainly hold their own.  

That’s not even to mention our huge folk tradition.  

Finally we also have newer pop musicians which may not be to everyone’s taste such as Dermot Kennedy, Gavin James, Kodaline, Walking on Cars and The Script who are popular with some.  



And don't forget Fontaines DC for those of us that prefer music with a bit of an edge

Bohs scum 😀😀😀.by the way I am not a fan of all the bands I listed and I am a fan of loads of Irish artists I didn’t list such as Mick Flannery. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

looks like he knows as much about Irish music as he does about Irish football. 


A lot of those artists listed are an acquired taste IMO; did The Cranberries have much success apart from Linger? And the majority of them were formed around fifty years ago. In terms of musical output, I'd argue we're punching under our weight, if anything, over the last however many years. IDK if The Pogues count as an Irish band since a lot of their members are British, but I'll throw them in with U2 and Sinead. Enya has a few decent tracks as well.



Cranberries sold 50 million albums.  If you are using sales as a metric, westlife, the corrs, van Morrison, boyzone, enya, hozier, Sinead o Connor Thin Lizzy have all sold bucket loads. 

Not to mention artists such as Rory Gallagher, Paul Brady, My Bloody Valentine, The Undertones, Whipping Boy, Glen Hansard/The Frames, Snow Patrol who can certainly hold their own.  

That’s not even to mention our huge folk tradition.  

Finally we also have newer pop musicians which may not be to everyone’s taste such as Dermot Kennedy, Gavin James, Kodaline, Walking on Cars and The Script who are popular with some.  



And don't forget Fontaines DC for those of us that prefer music with a bit of an edge
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

looks like he knows as much about Irish music as he does about Irish football. 

A lot of those artists listed are an acquired taste IMO; did The Cranberries have much success apart from Linger? And the majority of them were formed around fifty years ago. In terms of musical output, I'd argue we're punching under our weight, if anything, over the last however many years. IDK if The Pogues count as an Irish band since a lot of their members are British, but I'll throw them in with U2 and Sinead. Enya has a few decent tracks as well.


Cranberries sold 50 million albums.  If you are using sales as a metric, westlife, the corrs, van Morrison, boyzone, enya, hozier, Sinead o Connor Thin Lizzy have all sold bucket loads. 

Not to mention artists such as Rory Gallagher, Paul Brady, My Bloody Valentine, The Undertones, Whipping Boy, Glen Hansard/The Frames, Snow Patrol who can certainly hold their own.  

That’s not even to mention our huge folk tradition.  

Finally we also have newer pop musicians which may not be to everyone’s taste such as Dermot Kennedy, Gavin James, Kodaline, Walking on Cars and The Script who are popular with some.  


Edited by Baldrick - 20 Jul 2022 at 10:05pm
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

looks like he knows as much about Irish music as he does about Irish football. 

A lot of those artists listed are an acquired taste IMO; did The Cranberries have much success apart from Linger? And the majority of them were formed around fifty years ago. In terms of musical output, I'd argue we're punching under our weight, if anything, over the last however many years. IDK if The Pogues count as an Irish band since a lot of their members are British, but I'll throw them in with U2 and Sinead. Enya has a few decent tracks as well.

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looks like he knows as much about Irish music as he does about Irish football. 
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

[QUOTE=Double Maxim]Friendliest people in the world
Outstanding scenery
People passionate about their sport
Ireland has produced some world class musicians
Guinness Tullamore Dew Bulmers etc 
Ballinskelligs
Some fantastic restaurants and pubs.
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From the eighties on.
 
U2, Sinead O'Connor, surely I'm forgetting someone?

U2 are the only Irish band on my playlist, and I have a pretty broad taste in music.


What a bizarre post you really need to do some research into Ireland's rich musical history.
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In most metrics that are used such as GDP, GNP, quality of life, freedom of expression, education, unemployment
Rate, happiness index etc etc. Ireland consistently is in the top 10 and always on top 20.  

When we gained our independence that was not the case and was not the case in 70s and 80s 

We have come a long way baby. 
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