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A lot going on tonight but Sweden are 1-0 down at home to Slovenia unfortunately. Not great news in terms of our playoff hopes.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

A lot going on tonight but Sweden are 1-0 down at home to Slovenia unfortunately. Not great news in terms of our playoff hopes.
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what does the playoff position look like now?
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No favour from Sweden tonight. We are ranked 26th in the Nations League. Potentially right on the edge in terms of a playoff place - could go either way.

To get a playoff place we need no more than two of the following teams to qualify automatically:

Sweden
Romania 
Greece
Turkey
Slovakia
Iceland 
North Macedonia
Montenegro
Georgia
Bulgaria
Kazakhstan
+ all the minnows that likely have no chance.

If three or more of these teams qualify automatically then we don't get a playoff.



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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying

Pots here shall throw up properly later, or if someone not travelling home from match can do it

Poland, Israel, faroes, Malta san marino the dream 

Group of death Spain France, Turkey, Slovakia

Of course there be the possibility of Denmark, Wales, Georgia, North Ireland
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying

Pots here shall throw up properly later, or if someone not travelling home from match can do it

Poland, Israel, faroes, Malta san marino the dream 

Group of death Spain France, Turkey, Slovakia

Of course there be the possibility of Denmark, Wales, Georgia, North Ireland

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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying

Pots here shall throw up properly later, or if someone not travelling home from match can do it

Poland, Israel, faroes, Malta san marino the dream 

Group of death Spain France, Turkey, Slovakia

Of course there be the possibility of Denmark, Wales, Georgia, North Ireland
would prefer the group of death than the last one.

But there may not be any group of deaths. We’ll end up in a group with a glimmer of hope and end up in the playoffs lamenting  drawing away to someone like Bulgaria. The 3/4 teams above and below us in the ranking are who we’re likely to be playing in the playoffs and there all about the same as us. Some strengths but too many weaknesses to be good enough to qualify directly. Look at where Slovakia are now. Pot 5 with OWC. 
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I don't agree with this excessive travel restriction, particularly for Kazakhstan - they knew what they were  signing up for!


The following restrictions will be applied with computer assistance:[7]

  • Prohibited clashes: For political reasons, matches between following pairs of teams are considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same group: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Belarus / Ukraine, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia.
  • Winter venues: A maximum of two teams whose venues were identified as having high or medium risk of severe winter conditions can be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway.
  • Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries can be placed in each group:
    • Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
    • Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
    • Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, Faroe Islands, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.
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Kazakhstan have half the confederation with excessive travel so! Pity Sweden drew tonight, we’d be a lot more comfortable with 25th for a playoff I think. 
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It dosent matter who we draw, its not about results or qualification is it, its about building for the future.
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Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

I don't agree with this excessive travel restriction, particularly for Kazakhstan - they knew what they were  signing up for!


The following restrictions will be applied with computer assistance:[7]

  • Prohibited clashes: For political reasons, matches between following pairs of teams are considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same group: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Belarus / Ukraine, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia.
  • Winter venues: A maximum of two teams whose venues were identified as having high or medium risk of severe winter conditions can be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway.
  • Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries can be placed in each group:
    • Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
    • Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
    • Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, Faroe Islands, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.

From a footballing point of view, I think we have to hope to draw Kazakhstan as (1) they are weaker than Georgia, Turkey and Greece in pot 4, and (2) it would avoid drawing any of Spain and Portugal from pot 1 and more importantly avoid drawing France or England from pot 2. 
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So in full glory
Pot 1 : 
Netherlands, Croatia, Spain, Italy,Denmark,Portugal,Belgium,Hungary,Switzerland,Poland
Pot 2:
France,Austria,Czech Rep,England,Wales,Israel,Bosnia,Serbia,Scotland,Finland
Pot 3:
Ukraine,Iceland,Norway,Slovenia,EIRE,Albania,Montenegro,Romania,Sweden,Armenia
Pot 4:
Georgia,Greece,Turkey,Kazakhstan,Luxembourg,Azerbaijan,Kosovo,Bulgaria,Faroe Islands,N.Macedonia
Pot 5:
Slovakia,N. Ireland,Cyprus,Belarus,Lithuania,Gibraltar,Estonia,Latvia,Moldova,Malta
Pot 6 :
Andorra,San Marino, Lichtenstein

The following restrictions will be applied with computer assistance:

Prohibited clashes: For political reasons, matches between following pairs of teams are considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same group: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Belarus / Ukraine, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia.

Winter venues: A maximum of two teams whose venues were identified as having high or medium risk of severe winter conditions can be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway.

Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries can be placed in each group:
Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, Faroe Islands, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.


As previously stated I think best case would be
  • Hungary or Poland from Pot 1
  • tbh from Pot 2 anyone but England,France or Wales we'd give a game on our day Israel or Bosnia would probably be my preference
  • Pot 3- We be in
  • Pot 4- definitely a few to avoid there Turkey being the main one (as you never know with them 1) where they'll play the game 2) How they'll actually play), Faroes probably the pick but a potential chance to knock another of the played list in Kosovo (would be a great trip)
  • Pot 5- Avoid the first 4 teams and you'd be happy enough 
  • Pot 6- Don't think it really matters who we get from here we SHOULD be beating all 3 of them.
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Originally posted by xRedmanLFCx xRedmanLFCx wrote:

Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

I don't agree with this excessive travel restriction, particularly for Kazakhstan - they knew what they were  signing up for!


The following restrictions will be applied with computer assistance:[7]

  • Prohibited clashes: For political reasons, matches between following pairs of teams are considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same group: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Belarus / Ukraine, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia.
  • Winter venues: A maximum of two teams whose venues were identified as having high or medium risk of severe winter conditions can be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway.
  • Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries can be placed in each group:
    • Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
    • Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
    • Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, Faroe Islands, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.

From a footballing point of view, I think we have to hope to draw Kazakhstan as (1) they are weaker than Georgia, Turkey and Greece in pot 4, and (2) it would avoid drawing any of Spain and Portugal from pot 1 and more importantly avoid drawing France or England from pot 2. 

Just to point out it starts with Pot 1 and then goes to Pot 2,3,4,5,6 

We'll already be drawn before Kazakhstan come out so no luck there.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

So in full glory
Pot 1 : 
Netherlands, Croatia, Spain, Italy,Denmark,Portugal,Belgium,Hungary,Switzerland,Poland
Pot 2:
France,Austria,Czech Rep,England,Wales,Israel,Bosnia,Serbia,Scotland,Finland
Pot 3:
Ukraine,Iceland,Norway,Slovenia,EIRE,Albania,Montenegro,Romania,Sweden,Armenia
Pot 4:
Georgia,Greece,Turkey,Kazakhstan,Luxembourg,Azerbaijan,Kosovo,Bulgaria,Faroe Islands,N.Macedonia
Pot 5:
Slovakia,N. Ireland,Cyprus,Belarus,Lithuania,Gibraltar,Estonia,Latvia,Moldova,Malta
Pot 6 :
Andorra,San Marino, Lichtenstein

The following restrictions will be applied with computer assistance:

Prohibited clashes: For political reasons, matches between following pairs of teams are considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same group: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Belarus / Ukraine, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia.

Winter venues: A maximum of two teams whose venues were identified as having high or medium risk of severe winter conditions can be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway.

Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries can be placed in each group:
Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, Faroe Islands, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.


As previously stated I think best case would be
  • Hungary or Poland from Pot 1
  • tbh from Pot 2 anyone but England,France or Wales we'd give a game on our day Israel or Bosnia would probably be my preference
  • Pot 3- We be in
  • Pot 4- definitely a few to avoid there Turkey being the main one (as you never know with them 1) where they'll play the game 2) How they'll actually play), Faroes probably the pick but a potential chance to knock another of the played list in Kosovo (would be a great trip)
  • Pot 5- Avoid the first 4 teams and you'd be happy enough 
  • Pot 6- Don't think it really matters who we get from here we SHOULD be beating all 3 of them.

I watched Kosovo against the North, a game they inexplicably lost, but from a footballing pov, I wouldnt like them at all, they look pretty decent. Agree with pretty much all of the rest. 

There are a couple of other Pot 1 teams that we should be able to give a game also, Swiss, Danes. Even the Portugese werent particularly impressive vs us last time around - still think that ref's display was unforgivable.

Obviously need to avoid Eng/Fra from Pot 2, would like to avoid Serbia also

Pot 4 - Dont want Turkey/Greece and would be particulalry wary of Georgia/Kosovo

Pot 5 - Agree first 3 or 4 listed there are best avoided

Pot 6 - Fodder, woudlnt mind Germany as the non-competing 6th team in our group if things fell that way. Couple of good friendlies and would help bring the younger lads on.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

So in full glory
Pot 1 : 
Netherlands, Croatia, Spain, Italy,Denmark,Portugal,Belgium,Hungary,Switzerland,Poland
Pot 2:
France,Austria,Czech Rep,England,Wales,Israel,Bosnia,Serbia,Scotland,Finland
Pot 3:
Ukraine,Iceland,Norway,Slovenia,EIRE,Albania,Montenegro,Romania,Sweden,Armenia
Pot 4:
Georgia,Greece,Turkey,Kazakhstan,Luxembourg,Azerbaijan,Kosovo,Bulgaria,Faroe Islands,N.Macedonia
Pot 5:
Slovakia,N. Ireland,Cyprus,Belarus,Lithuania,Gibraltar,Estonia,Latvia,Moldova,Malta
Pot 6 :
Andorra,San Marino, Lichtenstein

The following restrictions will be applied with computer assistance:

Prohibited clashes: For political reasons, matches between following pairs of teams are considered prohibited clashes, unable to be drawn into the same group: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Belarus / Ukraine, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia.

Winter venues: A maximum of two teams whose venues were identified as having high or medium risk of severe winter conditions can be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway.

Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries can be placed in each group:
Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, Faroe Islands, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.


As previously stated I think best case would be
  • Hungary or Poland from Pot 1
  • tbh from Pot 2 anyone but England,France or Wales we'd give a game on our day Israel or Bosnia would probably be my preference
  • Pot 3- We be in
  • Pot 4- definitely a few to avoid there Turkey being the main one (as you never know with them 1) where they'll play the game 2) How they'll actually play), Faroes probably the pick but a potential chance to knock another of the played list in Kosovo (would be a great trip)
  • Pot 5- Avoid the first 4 teams and you'd be happy enough 
  • Pot 6- Don't think it really matters who we get from here we SHOULD be beating all 3 of them.

I watched Kosovo against the North, a game they inexplicably lost, but from a footballing pov, I wouldnt like them at all, they look pretty decent. Agree with pretty much all of the rest. 

There are a couple of other Pot 1 teams that we should be able to give a game also, Swiss, Danes. Even the Portugese werent particularly impressive vs us last time around - still think that ref's display was unforgivable.

Obviously need to avoid Eng/Fra from Pot 2, would like to avoid Serbia also

Pot 4 - Dont want Turkey/Greece and would be particulalry wary of Georgia/Kosovo

Pot 5 - Agree first 3 or 4 listed there are best avoided

Pot 6 - Fodder, woudlnt mind Germany as the non-competing 6th team in our group if things fell that way. Couple of good friendlies and would help bring the younger lads on.

Yeah I agree they do seem a decent side, I put them there as one a team we've never played and it would be an interesting away trip.

Would be great to be in a group with Germany alright, I'd imagine that is happening though I haven't seen it publicised 
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Hun/Pol
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If in a six team group much of a muchness  any of the 3
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Hun/Pol
Anyone except France/England/Wales
Ireland
Faroes
Malta

If in a six team group much of a muchness  any of the 3







Throw Germany in there as the non-competing 6th team and I'm sold :)
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