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    Posted: 13 Oct 2023 at 12:04pm
https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/being-irish-has-always-been-drilled-into-me-london-born-tony-springett-hoping-to-make-big-impact-for-u-21s/a1045571499.html

Nice interview here with Springett. Very good insight into his family background. His mum is from Dún Laoghaire and moved to London at a young age. However he doesn't have much contact with his Dad's English family. Seems very proud to be Irish Clap
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got 20 mins for norwich today in their 4-4 draw with southampton, got booked for kicking the ball away cant find anything else on how he played
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seems he didnt play very much on loan at derby. wonder if he will go on loan again or stay at norwich
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Originally posted by Technical_method Technical_method wrote:

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Starts for Norwich this eve vs Bournemouth 

Seems to be playing left back... is that his normal position 


Usually a winger I think.
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Originally posted by Stimpy Stimpy wrote:

Starts for Norwich this eve vs Bournemouth 

Seems to be playing left back... is that his normal position 
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Starts for Norwich this eve vs Bournemouth 
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Originally posted by KingKenny KingKenny wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Perhaps it is time to accept that unless you are playing in the upper reaches of the PL regularly then it doesn’t make much of a difference if you are playing there insofar as it effects your international form.

Isn't that just quitting on getting back to where we were though  ? 
We have to produce guys who are at that level, again, because two or three of those are the difference between qualifying and not, in group matches v elite sides. 

Its two or three, in some cases, years now since Collins / O'Shea  / Omobamidele  / Obamfemi  / Parrott  / Connolly  / Molumby  / Knight / Idah began to emerge and not one has established themselves in the top division, never mind kicked on up a level to a club playing Europa League even. 

You've a list of fellas between 19-22. I think people forget how young they are because of how early they broke through to the the national team.

There's very few teenagers playing regularly at those top levels anymore. Chelsea didn't give a single PL minute to a teenager this season. If in three years time they're all still at the same level you might have a point, but for now it's too early imo.
 


You saved me making the same point. It's almost as if these lads don't watch football. Collins the youngest CB back getting regular PL minutes by a mile this season. Omobamidele would have been the youngest had he been fit. Kelleher the 2nd youngest Keeper to get PL minutes this season.

Our issue is no player between the ages of 24-28 played PL football this season for us. That missing generation of players and we are right in the heart of the younger lads breaking through and learning their trade while the older lads are pushing on.

Omobamidele Idah and Obafemi have had injury issues too. The first two would have gotten regular minutes at thier young ages. Williams and Gilmour the other teenagers at Norwich that got them but even both those lads were dropped to the bench in the finish. Lads on the books of "big clubs" that didn't disgrace themselves at said big clubs either. Gilmour is touted as Scotland's best prospect for a few generations don't forget. Tzolis was touted to be a star in Greece before his move to Norwich and he's found it impossible the step up. 

It's only going to get harder for our young lads to break through in England and it goes for young lads from everywhere else too. Again Idah and Omobamidele haven't been helped by injuries they would have made fantastic strides this season playing regularly if they stayed fit.



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Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Probably get more chances in the championship next year. A bit of a baptism of fire throwing him into premier league games. 

They'll benefit from a year playing more regularly and who knows, they may bounce back up.

Isn't all that what was said about Idah two full years ago the last time they went down though   ?




Yes but Idah end up getting injured, twice, for a big of that 20/21 season in the Championship. Only playing 325 minutes of football that season because of his injuries and trying to regain match fitnees after them. Not the best example to use really.


Just on that, is idahs injury record an issue? He's missed the majority of the last two seasons with long term injuries. 


His injuries have hampered his development a bit. He would have got a lot more minutes in the Championship if it wasn't for those two injuries. 3 goals and 1 assist in 325 minutes wasn't a bad ratio.
Then picking up his injury last season in February after starting to get a proper run and getting a few starts in the first team.
Getting knee injuries at his young age in never good. He first injury spell in the 20/21 season was a knee injury, Im not a 100% sure what his injury was for his second injury spell. His injury last February was a knee injury again with an operation and a five month lay off expected. Im not sure if it is the same knee causing the issue or not.
Hopefully he might be recovered for pre-season and be able to kick on.
We will find out more next season if his injuries are still an issue but hopefully not.


Last season he was out due to needing surgery for a hernia.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by darman28 darman28 wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Probably get more chances in the championship next year. A bit of a baptism of fire throwing him into premier league games. 

They'll benefit from a year playing more regularly and who knows, they may bounce back up.

Isn't all that what was said about Idah two full years ago the last time they went down though   ?



Yes but Idah end up getting injured, twice, for a big of that 20/21 season in the Championship. Only playing 325 minutes of football that season because of his injuries and trying to regain match fitnees after them. Not the best example to use really.

Just on that, is idahs injury record an issue? He's missed the majority of the last two seasons with long term injuries. 

His injuries have hampered his development a bit. He would have got a lot more minutes in the Championship if it wasn't for those two injuries. 3 goals and 1 assist in 325 minutes wasn't a bad ratio.
Then picking up his injury last season in February after starting to get a proper run and getting a few starts in the first team.
Getting knee injuries at his young age in never good. He first injury spell in the 20/21 season was a knee injury, Im not a 100% sure what his injury was for his second injury spell. His injury last February was a knee injury again with an operation and a five month lay off expected. Im not sure if it is the same knee causing the issue or not.
Hopefully he might be recovered for pre-season and be able to kick on.
We will find out more next season if his injuries are still an issue but hopefully not.
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But some of those lads are still very young, and in some cases Under 20. Some were also a product of fan hype during Kenny’s reign as Under 21 manager, hence the demands to put them in the team, no matter the outcome. 
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Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Perhaps it is time to accept that unless you are playing in the upper reaches of the PL regularly then it doesn’t make much of a difference if you are playing there insofar as it effects your international form.

Isn't that just quitting on getting back to where we were though  ? 
We have to produce guys who are at that level, again, because two or three of those are the difference between qualifying and not, in group matches v elite sides. 

Its two or three, in some cases, years now since Collins / O'Shea  / Omobamidele  / Obamfemi  / Parrott  / Connolly  / Molumby  / Knight / Idah began to emerge and not one has established themselves in the top division, never mind kicked on up a level to a club playing Europa League even. 

You've a list of fellas between 19-22. I think people forget how young they are because of how early they broke through to the the national team.

There's very few teenagers playing regularly at those top levels anymore. Chelsea didn't give a single PL minute to a teenager this season. If in three years time they're all still at the same level you might have a point, but for now it's too early imo.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Perhaps it is time to accept that unless you are playing in the upper reaches of the PL regularly then it doesn’t make much of a difference if you are playing there insofar as it effects your international form.

Isn't that just quitting on getting back to where we were though  ? 
We have to produce guys who are at that level, again, because two or three of those are the difference between qualifying and not, in group matches v elite sides. 

Its two or three, in some cases, years now since Collins / O'Shea  / Omobamidele  / Obamfemi  / Parrott  / Connolly  / Molumby  / Knight / Idah began to emerge and not one has established themselves in the top division, never mind kicked on up a level to a club playing Europa League even. 
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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Doesn't matter what age he was.

The positive spin effort here on our players getting relegated is laughable. 
It wasn't good news two years ago for Idah & its not good today. It means our guys are at poor club sides, whatever way you try to dress it up.

We lost Long  / Collins  / Costelloe / Idah / Omobamidele and Springett from the top division today & we lost Robinson  /  O'Shea  /  Stevens & Egan this day last year, none of them are back up or any better for it.
 
We need these guys kicking on in the Premier Division because its international football we're talking about, and players who can impact matches at that level we need to develop.

Next season we'll have Doherty & Travers. Only. Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is talking out their green tinted hole


Its no harm for younger lads who are struggling to break into the side though. Collins, O'Shea and Omobamidele for example all made the break through for their clubs the season after they were relegated and playing in the Championship.

So many players are Premier League players by name only and thats no use to anyone.

Look at how Obamfemi and Dunne are doing since they dropped to the Championship this season having had so few chances previously in the Premier League with their former clubs.

I think Obafemi just copped himself on in the same way Connolly hasn't. Plus the Championship is a level down, lets not airbrush that out of the picture, what Dunne faces playing for QPR & what is expected of him ( and the others ) in that division is not ideal preparation for a match V a first or second seed to get to a finals with Ireland  ( never mind being at an actual finals  )   

Everyone is on about green shoots, brighter future, but lets face it the collective trajectory of our young players remains downward, or certainly outside the elite.  

Have we given up on Irish talent getting in Premier club sides, staying in, doing well & even moving upwards from there  ?  It seems like we have & are putting the brightside of more playing time a division down on things. 

Jesus I even remember reading a few months back that Derby going into L1 would be good for Watson & Cashin and therefore good for Ireland. FFS like


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I’m less concerned about lads playing for the likes of Burnley or Norwich in the PL than maybe I was a year or two ago. The reality is, if like Norwich you’re getting pasted regularly that is not necessarily of benefit to anybody. Ogbene is playing League 1, and doesn’t look out of place in the international setup. Robinson became prolific at international level after relegation. Travers may not have got his shot without Bournemouth’s failure in 2021 to return to the PL. Jason Knight will has learned his trade in a relegation scrap in the championship. Cullen is playing outside of the UK, and in a League that wouldn’t be Top 5. As Bandwagon mentions, Obafemi has turned a corner since he left the PL.

We can assume that sharing a pitch for an afternoon with KDB or Salah or Ronaldo might be an excellent learning experience. But if the team you are playing with is no good, then it makes no difference as you never lay a glove on them. Perhaps it is time to accept that unless you are playing in the upper reaches of the PL regularly then it doesn’t make much of a difference if you are playing there insofar as it effects your international form.
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Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Probably get more chances in the championship next year. A bit of a baptism of fire throwing him into premier league games. 

They'll benefit from a year playing more regularly and who knows, they may bounce back up.

Isn't all that what was said about Idah two full years ago the last time they went down though   ?



Yes but Idah end up getting injured, twice, for a big of that 20/21 season in the Championship. Only playing 325 minutes of football that season because of his injuries and trying to regain match fitnees after them. Not the best example to use really.
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Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Doesn't matter what age he was.

The positive spin effort here on our players getting relegated is laughable. 
It wasn't good news two years ago for Idah & its not good today. It means our guys are at poor club sides, whatever way you try to dress it up.

We lost Long  / Collins  / Costelloe / Idah / Omobamidele and Springett from the top division today & we lost Robinson  /  O'Shea  /  Stevens & Egan this day last year, none of them are back up or any better for it.
 
We need these guys kicking on in the Premier Division because its international football we're talking about, and players who can impact matches at that level we need to develop.

Next season we'll have Doherty & Travers. Only. Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is talking out their green tinted hole


Its no harm for younger lads who are struggling to break into the side though. Collins, O'Shea and Omobamidele for example all made the break through for their clubs the season after they were relegated and playing in the Championship.

So many players are Premier League players by name only and thats no use to anyone.

Look at how Obamfemi and Dunne are doing since they dropped to the Championship this season having had so few chances previously in the Premier League with their former clubs.
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we are seriously lacking in players in top leagues next year alright, you would hope that some of the young lads will have good years and get promoted or a move to a top league.
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Doesn't matter what age he was.

The positive spin effort here on our players getting relegated is laughable. 
It wasn't good news two years ago for Idah & its not good today. It means our guys are at poor club sides, whatever way you try to dress it up.

We lost Long  / Collins  / Costelloe / Idah / Omobamidele and Springett from the top division today & we lost Robinson  /  O'Shea  /  Stevens & Egan this day last year, none of them are back up or any better for it.
 
We need these guys kicking on in the Premier Division because its international football we're talking about, and players who can impact matches at that level we need to develop.

Next season we'll have Doherty & Travers. Only. Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is talking out their green tinted hole


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