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B6 6HE
Liam Brady Joined: 25 Aug 2021 Status: Offline Points: 1028 |
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With hindsight, do you think that the reports of Ukraines victories over Russia were overplayed so that it would help Bidens mid term elections thereby justifying American military aid? |
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10532 |
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Doubt it. Russia overestimated their own capacities, and underestimated Ukranian capacities. Even without success, there is a very strong argument for aid in order to restore the borders.
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eireland
Ray Houghton Joined: 12 Feb 2016 Status: Online Points: 4085 |
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Gerk here's a little video from a Ukrainian point of view. The Russians are horrible ****s and have been using the good old tried and tested British tactic of divide and conquer. They are the last modern day colonial European power and the sooner they're defeated in Ukraine the better for everyone.
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10532 |
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Thanks for the share, and interesting video. Not enough is done to understand how these 'republics' came to be, and why they are all part of a Russian narrative.
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colemanY2K
Roy Keane Fresh minty breath Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 14959 |
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if they had been given atacms the war would have ended last year. the issue is that the west is sh*t scared of russia losing the war. russia losing would result in a major crisis in the country with a real risk of disintegration. not a brilliant scenario for anyone given the size of their nuclear arsenal. however the continuation of the war is a real headache as well. giving the ukrainians everything except ranged weapons will prolong the war causing intolerable stress economically and geopolitically worldwide. we are in a bind. how to resolve this without causing massive geopolitical fallout is the 100 million dollar question.
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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The GerK
Moderator Group Razor you wanna pint?...2 minutes later Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 20449 |
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Will try watch at some stage but you make it out that I think Russia are the good guys.
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irish_major
Ray Houghton Bookie Slayer Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3924 |
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Can't watch a video that might contradict you but you've time to go down rabbit holes about nonsense conspiracy theories. You do think Russia are the good guys
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Here we go again
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BabbsBalls
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Cancel him, Major Uncle Tom.
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l hear you are a racist now, father ?
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Sham157
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eireland
Ray Houghton Joined: 12 Feb 2016 Status: Online Points: 4085 |
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ATACMS at the very least would force key Russian logistic hubs to set up further away from the frontline and that's never good for logistics. Hopefully Ukraine can get their homemade long range drones in order to force Russia bomber planes to relocate further from the front.
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The GerK
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Oh, you are one of these guys that thinks he can tell what other people think. Can't watch a video that might contradict you. Coming from someone who literally cancelled his mates for having a different opinion I watched the video. Sorry for not doing so earlier but I was knee deep in guinness all weekend. It reinforces my opinion that Russia are animals and have always been animals. Nothing new there. But it does nothing to address US involvement in Ukraine. Who blew up Nord Stream 2? This is what's wrong with debate these days. All one sided. Question the Yanks and you are branded a Putin puppet. |
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10532 |
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In fact, I'd argue that we live in a particularly liberal debating space, thanks to social media etc. So liberal in fact that dangerous, and ridiculous ideas are getting traction that they simply dont deserve.
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Cabra Hoop
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Het-field
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Serious question, what is the 'liberal agenda?' |
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Cabra Hoop
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Het-field
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Honestly, I think the 'liberal agenda' is too broad to define, and as a rule is had to pin down, simply because some liberal will believe in free markets and free people, while others believe that the only way people can be free is if there is a degree of market intervention through popular government. Its a broad church between what a right leaning liberal would consider as liberal and what a left leaning liberal would see as liberalism.
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The GerK
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This is true on both sides, left and right. Hence my point. No nuance.
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planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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Negotiating peace with Putin? 2 peace agreements have already been negotiated with him. He never observed them, and ripped them up last year. So you can't negotiate with his regime. Even if you could, what do you do about Wagner, or Belarus? Do you include them or ignore them? Ignore them and they're not bound by the agreement. Include them and negotiations become even more difficult. It's not just a straight forward Ukraine v Russia military battlefield these days. The UN are unable to help because Russia just automatically blocks any efforts to reign them in. I don't know how practical sending in peacekeepers would be, or have a Kosovo style settlement, but neither side is prepared to budge an inch on their demands and until someone is, then the conflict will just drag on and on and on. And I still laugh at the "we stand with Ukraine" propaganda. No they don't. Ukraine wants to join the EU? No you can't. Ukraine wants to join NATO? No you can't. Ukrainians courageous enough to move to Ireland rather than stay in places such as Poland? No you can't. Go away, there's no room at the inn. This is official government policy, stated on the DFA website, or words to that effect. But the politicians everywhere tell them that they're with them as long as it takes, when the reality is that they'll dump them when they don't want to stand by them any longer. |
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