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    Posted: 14 Oct 2021 at 10:14am
Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

For me there was almost a bit of a swagger to us tonight. Passing backheels Hendrick trying them at one stage. 

Kelleher - Is well ahead of Bazunu in distribution. Also came for a corner comfortably Bazunu is still learning to command his box a bit. Distribution is elite. A couple of times he split 2 or 3 Qatar players with passes. just opens the pitch up.  Bazunu first choice but what a goalkeeping situation.

Overall a great night confidence boosting win. Portugal is a huge test as they will come here up for it. They need to win. We have momentum the crowd behind us and a bit of expectation now. Big test for us but we can hold our own I think. Theres something coming together but important we get that win against Luxembourg and give Portugal a bit of stick at least. 

If Kelleher gets the Portugal game, we should get at least a point, because he's a class goalkeeper who finds ways to keep the ball out of the net that others don't. If we play the a League 2 keeper who kept one clean sheet for us in 6 months, who has already leaked 2 to Portugal, the chances of getting the point are reduced. Even Andorra found a way past him.

It's our biggest win in years against a side who would be third in the group if their results counted, but it's hilarious how Kenny's biggest critics telling us how incompetent he is and that he needs to go after every single game, are now demanding assessment at the end of the campaign, so he gets the chance to lose in Luxembourg for them. 

Personally I would have renewed it months ago, so he can continue the work that has to be done, and is starting to see green shoots. Especially before Steve Bruce is sacked and he becomes the bookies favourite to get the job, to rip up the transition and get us back to hoofball. 

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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

For me there was almost a bit of a swagger to us tonight. Passing backheels Hendrick trying them at one stage. 

Kelleher - Is well ahead of Bazunu in distribution. Also came for a corner comfortably Bazunu is still learning to command his box a bit. Distribution is elite. A couple of times he split 2 or 3 Qatar players with passes. just opens the pitch up.  Bazunu first choice but what a goalkeeping situation.

Overall a great night confidence boosting win. Portugal is a huge test as they will come here up for it. They need to win. We have momentum the crowd behind us and a bit of expectation now. Big test for us but we can hold our own I think. Theres something coming together but important we get that win against Luxembourg and give Portugal a bit of stick at least. 

If Kelleher gets the Portugal game, we should get at least a point, because he's a class goalkeeper who finds ways to keep the ball out of the net that others don't. If we play the a League 2 keeper who kept one clean sheet for us in 6 months, who has already leaked 2 to Portugal, the chances of getting the point are reduced. Even Andorra found a way past him.

It's our biggest win in years against a side who would be third in the group if their results counted, but it's hilarious how Kenny's biggest critics telling us how incompetent he is and that he needs to go after every single game, are now demanding assessment at the end of the campaign, so he gets the chance to lose in Luxembourg for them. 

Personally I would have renewed it months ago, so he can continue the work that has to be done, and is starting to see green shoots. Especially before Steve Bruce is sacked and he becomes the bookies favourite to get the job, to rip up the transition and get us back to hoofball. 
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Not sure how you can say Kelleher distribution is better from last nights game, he made a couple of 5 yard passes. The one time he cam under a little bit of pressure he gave it away. The corner had no other player challenging for it so was fairly easy.


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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

For me there was almost a bit of a swagger to us tonight. Passing backheels Hendrick trying them at one stage. 

Kelleher - Is well ahead of Bazunu in distribution. Also came for a corner comfortably Bazunu is still learning to command his box a bit. Distribution is elite. A couple of times he split 2 or 3 Qatar players with passes. just opens the pitch up.  Bazunu first choice but what a goalkeeping situation.

Overall a great night confidence boosting win. Portugal is a huge test as they will come here up for it. They need to win. We have momentum the crowd behind us and a bit of expectation now. Big test for us but we can hold our own I think. Theres something coming together but important we get that win against Luxembourg and give Portugal a bit of stick at least. 

If Kelleher gets the Portugal game, we should get at least a point, because he's a class goalkeeper who finds ways to keep the ball out of the net that others don't. If we play the a League 2 keeper who kept one clean sheet for us in 6 months, who has already leaked 2 to Portugal, the chances of getting the point are reduced. Even Andorra found a way past him.

It's our biggest win in years against a side who would be third in the group if their results counted, but it's hilarious how Kenny's biggest critics telling us how incompetent he is and that he needs to go after every single game, are now demanding assessment at the end of the campaign, so he gets the chance to lose in Luxembourg for them. 

Personally I would have renewed it months ago, so he can continue the work that has to be done, and is starting to see green shoots. Especially before Steve Bruce is sacked and he becomes the bookies favourite to get the job, to rip up the transition and get us back to hoofball. 

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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

For me there was almost a bit of a swagger to us tonight. Passing backheels Hendrick trying them at one stage. 

Kelleher - Is well ahead of Bazunu in distribution. Also came for a corner comfortably Bazunu is still learning to command his box a bit. Distribution is elite. A couple of times he split 2 or 3 Qatar players with passes. just opens the pitch up.  Bazunu first choice but what a goalkeeping situation.

Overall a great night confidence boosting win. Portugal is a huge test as they will come here up for it. They need to win. We have momentum the crowd behind us and a bit of expectation now. Big test for us but we can hold our own I think. Theres something coming together but important we get that win against Luxembourg and give Portugal a bit of stick at least. 

If Kelleher gets the Portugal game, we should get at least a point, because he's a class goalkeeper who finds ways to keep the ball out of the net that others don't. If we play the a League 2 keeper who kept one clean sheet for us in 6 months, who has already leaked 2 to Portugal, the chances of getting the point are reduced. Even Andorra found a way past him.

It's our biggest win in years against a side who would be third in the group if their results counted, but it's hilarious how Kenny's biggest critics telling us how incompetent he is and that he needs to go after every single game, are now demanding assessment at the end of the campaign, so he gets the chance to lose in Luxembourg for them. 

Personally I would have renewed it months ago, so he can continue the work that has to be done, and is starting to see green shoots. Especially before Steve Bruce is sacked and he becomes the bookies favourite to get the job, to rip up the transition and get us back to hoofball. 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

the jersey last night grew on me the more i seen it but it would look better if the Umbro logo was in white as you cant really see it in blue.


Thats was the whole point as they didn't have brand logos 100 years ago!

Pity they didnt go one step further and go for the old fabric stitched numbers instead of the modern printed ones.

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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

the jersey last night grew on me the more i seen it but it would look better if the Umbro logo was in white as you cant really see it in blue.


Thats was the whole point as they didn't have brand logos 100 years ago!

Pity they didnt go one step further and go for the old fabric stitched numbers instead of the modern printed ones.
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Originally posted by darmack darmack wrote:

I think last night was also the first gam that we have won where Duffy has scored a goal.
He has been our main goal scorer in the last few years but we've never won when he's scored.
He must have close to double figures now.

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I think last night was also the first game that we have won where Duffy has scored a goal.
He has been our main goal scorer in the last few years but we've never won when he's scored.
He must have close to double figures now.
Edit .. He's only on 6 goals


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The stat hereunder is worth noting in terms of the development of the team under Kenny and its not as if they were all sideway passes either.


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From last night: 663 passes are the most by the Irish senior men's side in a single game in the last decade. It's the only time they reached 600 successful passes and the first time in that span they broke 92% accuracy with their passes.
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the jersey last night grew on me the more i seen it but it would look better if the Umbro logo was in white as you cant really see it in blue.
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ya but we didn't let Qatar play. rewind a few years and say we played Qatar. we would have probably given the ball away countless times and they would have had loads of possession and looked like world beaters against us. Yes ok they looked poor but we made them look poor also.

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Great to see a lot of hard work from the management team and players making a difference. In all my years watching Ireland I had to rub my eyes to make sure it was Ireland I was watching last night. So impressive in all facets of the game.  Some people on here might say Qatar are rubbish but we really struggled against them last time and they won the Asian cup in the last few years. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Great stuff tonight from the lads and manager albeit against mediocre opponents. Looks like momentum and confidence has swung in Kennys favour.  I think Bazunu has to take a huge deal of credit for that. His confidence since he has come in has spread through the squad similar to the way Cantona's confidence rubbed off on other players.

Kelleher did well but Bazunu has a real confidence about him that transmits itself to those around him.

Will know more after the next international window.  We've had false dawns before such as when Stans Eire hammered Sweden and Denmark so not going to get carried away.  The real teat will be Luxembourg and Portugal.

A convincing win and a competitive performance against Portugal where we compete and give them a good game is all I want whther the result goes for us or againat us.


That’s exactly what we got away to Serbia and Portugal and Kenny didn’t get any credit for it as we lost both game.  I thought we were excellent in Belgrade and Faro and if it wasn’t for Travers and the genius goal scoring of Ronaldo that could have been anything from 1 to 4 points achieved there but it was zero.  

We have been building something for a while now, but the scoreboard journalists and fans can’t see that and only are convinced when results go out way and they even mention performances etc.  We played way better than Sat night in previous games and lost. 

Many on here and beyond have said results are all that matter but yet mention performances time and time again.  If you are results only fan (not saying you are, Murph is one though) then performances are irrelevant surely.  
If you can only see the world as an either or proposition then I guess you are correct. I think what is being said is that ultimately, it is the results that count, points on the board that counts, no points for performance unfortunately. Up until the last two games, the poor results were not even being compensated by good performances. Didi mentioned last night that if SK "wasn't one of our own" he would probably have been out the door by now, based on the results we've had.
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Great stuff tonight from the lads and manager albeit against mediocre opponents. Looks like momentum and confidence has swung in Kennys favour.  I think Bazunu has to take a huge deal of credit for that. His confidence since he has come in has spread through the squad similar to the way Cantona's confidence rubbed off on other players.

Kelleher did well but Bazunu has a real confidence about him that transmits itself to those around him.

Will know more after the next international window.  We've had false dawns before such as when Stans Eire hammered Sweden and Denmark so not going to get carried away.  The real teat will be Luxembourg and Portugal.

A convincing win and a competitive performance against Portugal where we compete and give them a good game is all I want whther the result goes for us or againat us.


That’s exactly what we got away to Serbia and Portugal and Kenny didn’t get any credit for it as we lost both game.  I thought we were excellent in Belgrade and Faro and if it wasn’t for Travers and the genius goal scoring of Ronaldo that could have been anything from 1 to 4 points achieved there but it was zero.  

We have been building something for a while now, but the scoreboard journalists and fans can’t see that and only are convinced when results go out way and they even mention performances etc.  We played way better than Sat night in previous games and lost. 

Many on here and beyond have said results are all that matter but yet mention performances time and time again.  If you are results only fan (not saying you are, Murph is one though) then performances are irrelevant surely.  

Results are all that matters in the cold light of day but good performances generally lead to good results. But at the end of the day results are all that matters. Some of Kenny's team performances have been overhyped.  Serbia away was nothing special.  We conceded 3 goals.  That tells me our defence performed poorly.  Playing some nice passages of play in between conceding three times is not a good performance.

Portugal away we performed well to an extent.  We still conceded twice and conceded a penalty again from what I would say are defensive errors.  Again the defence did not perform to the level that it should. So I think it was overhyped also.  We could have got beaten by a few that night.


A lot of performances have been tippy tappy around the back not going anywhere and were generally ineffective performances. Pretty in spells but nothing but defeats and draws.

That being said delighted with last night's performance and result.  Keep doing that and we are all very happy.




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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Great stuff tonight from the lads and manager albeit against mediocre opponents. Looks like momentum and confidence has swung in Kennys favour.  I think Bazunu has to take a huge deal of credit for that. His confidence since he has come in has spread through the squad similar to the way Cantona's confidence rubbed off on other players.

Kelleher did well but Bazunu has a real confidence about him that transmits itself to those around him.

Will know more after the next international window.  We've had false dawns before such as when Stans Eire hammered Sweden and Denmark so not going to get carried away.  The real teat will be Luxembourg and Portugal.

A convincing win and a competitive performance against Portugal where we compete and give them a good game is all I want whther the result goes for us or againat us.


That’s exactly what we got away to Serbia and Portugal and Kenny didn’t get any credit for it as we lost both game.  I thought we were excellent in Belgrade and Faro and if it wasn’t for Travers and the genius goal scoring of Ronaldo that could have been anything from 1 to 4 points achieved there but it was zero.  

We have been building something for a while now, but the scoreboard journalists and fans can’t see that and only are convinced when results go out way and they even mention performances etc.  We played way better than Sat night in previous games and lost. 

Many on here and beyond have said results are all that matter but yet mention performances time and time again.  If you are results only fan (not saying you are, Murph is one though) then performances are irrelevant surely.  

Results are all that matters in the cold light of day but good performances generally lead to good results. But at the end of the day results are all that matters. Some of Kenny's team performances have been overhyped.  Serbia away was nothing special.  We conceded 3 goals.  That tells me our defence performed poorly.  Playing some nice passages of play in between conceding three times is not a good performance.

Portugal away we performed well to an extent.  We still conceded twice and conceded a penalty again from what I would say are defensive errors.  Again the defence did not perform to the level that it should. So I think it was overhyped also.  We could have got beaten by a few that night.


A lot of performances have been tippy tappy around the back not going anywhere and were generally ineffective performances. Pretty in spells but nothing but defeats and draws.

That being said delighted with last night's performance and result.  Keep doing that and we are all very happy.




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Not sure about anyone else but I'm excited and the only thing tempering my excitement is reminding myself that we need to beat Luxembourg to compound this.


Yes as long as he doesn't f**k up against Luxembourg he is safe.  A win will convince everyone that the poor start is now behind him. 
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Not sure about anyone else but I'm excited and the only thing tempering my excitement is reminding myself that we need to beat Luxembourg to compound this.
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