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That's been quietly canned I think.
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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:


Confirmed by UEFA today that, from the next Nations League onwards, the teams that finish second in the B league will get a promotion playoff against the teams that finish third in the A league. 

Also, the teams that finish third in the B league will have to play a relegation playoff against teams from the C League. Games to be played in March every second year. So, had this been in place for this campaign we'd be facing a relegation playoff against Slovakia or someone this March rather than starting the next set of qualification groups.

To address the issue of the extra games qualification groups are going to be reduced to four and five team groups from the next campaign onwards, with only one automatic qualification place guaranteed in each group. 12 groups of 4 and 5 teams. So, a real need for us to be ranked in the top 24 in Europe when the next cutoff comes around to avoid dropping into a minnow pot.


Such a load of bollocks, more games nobody needs or wants. I know they aren't extra games per se but I'd prefer none of this hassle and have a friendly or two instead as it is currently.

I was on board the concept of NL from the start but its getting tiresome already with this sh*te and having no chance to bed in players in friendlies or play opposition from outside of Europe.



Ten South American teams are meant to be joining in 2024 and some teams will still have friendlies.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Confirmed by UEFA today that, from the next Nations League onwards, the teams that finish second in the B league will get a promotion playoff against the teams that finish third in the A league. 

Also, the teams that finish third in the B league will have to play a relegation playoff against teams from the C League. Games to be played in March every second year. So, had this been in place for this campaign we'd be facing a relegation playoff against Slovakia or someone this March rather than starting the next set of qualification groups.

To address the issue of the extra games qualification groups are going to be reduced to four and five team groups from the next campaign onwards, with only one automatic qualification place guaranteed in each group. 12 groups of 4 and 5 teams. So, a real need for us to be ranked in the top 24 in Europe when the next cutoff comes around to avoid dropping into a minnow pot.


Such a load of bollocks, more games nobody needs or wants. I know they aren't extra games per se but I'd prefer none of this hassle and have a friendly or two instead as it is currently.

I was on board the concept of NL from the start but its getting tiresome already with this sh*te and having no chance to bed in players in friendlies or play opposition from outside of Europe. 


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Confirmed by UEFA today that, from the next Nations League onwards, the teams that finish second in the B league will get a promotion playoff against the teams that finish third in the A league. 

Also, the teams that finish third in the B league will have to play a relegation playoff against teams from the C League. Games to be played in March every second year. So, had this been in place for this campaign we'd be facing a relegation playoff against Slovakia or someone this March rather than starting the next set of qualification groups.

To address the issue of the extra games qualification groups are going to be reduced to four and five team groups from the next campaign onwards, with only one automatic qualification place guaranteed in each group. 12 groups of 4 and 5 teams. So, a real need for us to be ranked in the top 24 in Europe when the next cutoff comes around to avoid dropping into a minnow pot.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Great work Tets, and Irish Abroad is the go too page for stats. Always look forward to your breakdown on how certain players have performed during international windows
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Great work Tets, and Irish Abroad is the go too page for stats. Always look forward to your breakdown on how certain players have performed during international windows
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The raw data is provided as well as percentages, therefore the way it is presented is sound. 
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

You know I run that account, right?

I didnt know that and I'm not denigrating it at all, so apologies if it came across that way. I'm just pointing out that while interesting and informative, they have to be looked at wrt games/minutes played during the campaign.

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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

You know I run that account, right?

I didnt know that and I'm not denigrating it at all, so apologies if it came across that way. I'm just pointing out that while interesting and informative, they have to be looked at wrt games/minutes played during the campaign.
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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Combined player stats from the 2022 Nations League campaign


Interesting, but I wish they'd do these where players have played a minimum of 3 games at least or if the stats were per 90. I mean Brady only played once and had 6 key passes at home to Armenia and his duel success rate has him third in the table on 67%. They are interesting, but have to be taken in the context of games/minutes played e.g. Cyrus Christie is 4th in the % passes completed table.
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Combined player stats from the 2022 Nations League campaign
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Ireland 3rd in League B (behind Serbia & Scotland) for "Teams that create more than they concede":




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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Well then another Nations League Campaign over and again relegation avoided.

Yes we all would have liked to have finished higher and yes there were bad moments Armenia away being the main one.

But lets look at the positives 

  • A lot of our younger players have grown into the team.
  • Players like Cullen, Parrott, Bazunu, Molumby, Knight for example 
  • We're playing better football




O'Shea, Ogbene, Obafemi, Kelleher, Collins too, but yes time to close this thread and move on to bigger and better things!
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Well then another Nations League Campaign over and again relegation avoided.

Yes we all would have liked to have finished higher and yes there were bad moments Armenia away being the main one.

But lets look at the positives 

  • A lot of our younger players have grown into the team.
  • Players like Cullen, Parrott, Bazunu, Molumby, Knight for example 
  • We're playing better football
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Still need Ukraine to do us a favour even if we take 6pts. No way Ukraine can be as sh*t as they were Wednesday night when they play Scotland again. If we finish second there's a good chance we could end up as the best ranked second team. Would need Norway to do us a favour because I can't see Sweden getting a result against Serbia.
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Armenia were never going to get a result. Ukraine will have been badly hurt by the manner of the defeat to Scotland and there was always going to be a massive backlash. It's simple enough for us, we need to go and beat Scotland.
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Or, we could undo the damage we did in Armenia by beating Scotland again today and then we wouldn't be f**ked.
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