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that super cup final is confirmed for Belfast now 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Yeah it was from 2012 that video 

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Yeah it was from 2012 that video 
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I'm sure that video is an old one.

Doesn't take away that they are scum though.
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Saw a lovely video yesterday of the Chelsea fans celebrating in Portugal. 
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punching the waiter by a scumbag. check
cue hilarity and laughter by all around. check 

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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Patrice Evra's reaction to the result 

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Patrice Evra's reaction to the result 

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Having the bigger squad has allowed City win the league cup the last 4 years. 
I don’t think City have a bloated squad - it’s not like they have top players not even making the bench. 
Players have huge ego’s anyway so it’s important to have a likeable manager like Pep, Klopp, Poch etc 

City are just missing a top Center forward. They should just call up Danny and ask him how much. Write the cheque and forget about it. 
They should do it before the World Cup as if he has a good one that will add another 10m to the price. 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

He had lost to Chelsea twice already, I assumed Pep's team selection was based on changing the losing system. They had one or two chances in the first half that nearly came off if one of them had of gone in then it could have been different. 

One thing is for sure when they sign Kane, that's not a final they will be losing again like that.

If you look at the lineups in those games pep was resting players.
In the league game he played Aguero and Jesus and had a different formation. 

In the FA cup game Chelsea played their first XI but City rested a few players. 

I don’t know why Pep changed the line up for their biggest game of the season. It would have been predictable but when you have a winning formula why change that. 
Maybe the pressure got to the players but it was probably one of City worst performances all season. 

Chelsea were brilliant and losing the FA cup probably helped them as they were determined not to lose. 

City need to get a striker. Jesus is a good back up but that’s all.


Was reading a post on another forum at the weekend that I agreed with and had thought on Saturday night. 
In a way City have too many players. Its alright chopping and changing a few to give players a rest, but I think Pep has too many to try to keep happy, and therefore you get inept performances such as the defeats to Chelsea in the league and FA cup, and the league defeat to Leeds for example, when you make a few changes. 




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City's aren't really big for sacking managers, only had 3 since the takeover 13 years ago

Can't really see them ever sacking Pep, in a way he's almost bigger than the club. And that's before you start to look at the success he's brought. 
Two trophies this season but it feels disappointing
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

He had two strikers sitting on the bench.

Should Pep be sacked so ?

If he were at Chelsea or Madrid he’d be sacked !!

One isn't good enough and one is done/unfit/out of shape. They got to the final by playing no strikers.

No, he shouldn't be sacked, do you think he should?
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

He had lost to Chelsea twice already, I assumed Pep's team selection was based on changing the losing system. They had one or two chances in the first half that nearly came off if one of them had of gone in then it could have been different. 

One thing is for sure when they sign Kane, that's not a final they will be losing again like that.

If you look at the lineups in those games pep was resting players.
In the league game he played Aguero and Jesus and had a different formation. 

In the FA cup game Chelsea played their first XI but City rested a few players. 

I don’t know why Pep changed the line up for their biggest game of the season. It would have been predictable but when you have a winning formula why change that. 
Maybe the pressure got to the players but it was probably one of City worst performances all season. 

Chelsea were brilliant and losing the FA cup probably helped them as they were determined not to lose. 

City need to get a striker. Jesus is a good back up but that’s all.

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Tactically I think Pep decided to play without a DM to coax Chelsea to attack a bit more and hence leave the space in behind, as Artie says it did work for the first part of the game, bar poor finishing.

Tuchel to be fair to him, copped this early on and got Kante to drop deeper and Mount also dropped a little deeper to play alongside Jorginho to effectively get tight to Foden, Gundogan and Silva.
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

He had two strikers sitting on the bench.

Should Pep be sacked so ?

If he were at Chelsea or Madrid he’d be sacked !!

One isn't good enough and one is done/unfit/out of shape. They got to the final by playing no strikers.

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He had lost to Chelsea twice already, I assumed Pep's team selection was based on changing the losing system. They had one or two chances in the first half that nearly came off if one of them had of gone in then it could have been different. 

One thing is for sure when they sign Kane, that's not a final they will be losing again like that.
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He had two strikers sitting on the bench.

Should Pep be sacked so ?

If he were at Chelsea or Madrid he’d be sacked !!
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Having reflected on the final i think two things. 
Pep got the team wrong, no idea what he was at not playing Fernandinho or Rodri as DM. Gundogan hasn't got the legs or positional sense to cover that position effectively and protect the defence.

Had he gone with Fern/Rodri and played Foden on the wing, Gundogan further forward and Sterling on the bench, I'm still not sure that City would have won. The way Chelsea defended with their three centre halfs all on form and Kante doing the job of three men in midfield and allowing no space, and in seeing how James and Chilwell played, I wouldn't be so certain that a false 9 would have had much joy. I said on here a few months ago that it was going to be very hard winning the CL without a striker on the pitch.  


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