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SC92
Liam Brady Joined: 08 Oct 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1011 |
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Not a bad idea re: Idah but think Kenny loves him too much to not bring him in the group if he is fit. Outside of Parrott and Obafemi (and Ogbene to a certain extent though not a 'true' CF) who have earned the shirt we aren't fully blessed with depth yet.
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Greenie50
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Nah, I don't think Idah has anything to learn from playing under Crawford. And if he isn't fit enough to play with the seniors he wouldn't be fit enough to play in a competitive U21 Play-off. Much better off bringing through the younger strikers.
Yeah, hamstring injury. Their manager said he might be out for up to 10 weeks, that was July 16th so 10 weeks on from there is the same week as the Play-Off vs Israel. So that's him ruled out (along with Whelan). Sinclair Armstrong replaced Whelan in the last camp. Replacements for Kayode would probably be Kenny, Emakhu, Cannon, Kavanagh.
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mouldymould
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sausy
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email got and tickets bought. West stand only and assigned seating which is strange for Tallaght.
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I'm a season ticket holder & haven't received an email with a link to the pre-sale. I'm raging, been to all u21 home games.
Emailed fai, as yet no response
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Sham157
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I got a mail yesterday with presale link. Think it was for being member of Team republic or something
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Sham157
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yep fan republic.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Just leaving this here to salivate on....
With a team like that you'd be thinking of winning the entire competition, not just a play-off. Would be great if some of the lads who might not get game-time at seniors could be involved, even if they already have full-caps. Bazunu Omabamadele. Collins. McGuinness Coventry. Ebosele. Smallbone. Knight. Parrott. Idah. Obafemi. Subs: Ferguson Armstrong Kilkenny Abankwah Adaramola Bagan Connell Johansson Noss etc. etc.
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giveittochristie
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You'd imagine the only 'senior' players who would be unlikely to start are the two Norwich lads - would be good to drop both of them down but think they'll be with the seniors. Probably Festy will be too - he seems to have issues with Crawford.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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Agree with that - if we were lucky.
However, the two Norwich lads would make a huge difference. We've been weak enough at centre-half in U21 qualifying, so Omabamadele could make a huge difference. Idah is a different level to anyone else we've had playing at u21 for some time, and, if both are unlikely to get a run in the seniors, would be great to see them come down. Obafemi and Ebosele have both already effectively elected not to be considered for U21.
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J89
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Would you, the only two that would make an XI if you were to also include eligible English players would be Bazunu and Collins. Spain could name Gavi and Pedri just to name two, |
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I might be in the minority here but I'd rather see players that have already graduated to the seniors stay there rather than dropping them back down to the 21s just to try to win a playoff. Much as I want us to qualify the main aim of the 21s is to bring players through to the seniors and it has been very successful in that regard under Kenny and Crawford. I'd rather give the minutes to an Evan Ferguson or a Sinclair Armstrong at this level than bring back an established senior player who can get loads of game time for club and country at senior level without needing the Under 21s.
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giveittochristie
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I would say most people are of a similar opinion - the likes of Knight, Collins etc are integral members of the first team and it would be crazy to drop them down. Neither of Omobamidele or Idah are likely to start the September games though, so if its a case of <45 mins with the seniors of 180 mins with the u21s i think they should drop down. They both happen to be in positions we could do with a player too. It's highly unlikely in any case - Kenny has shown before he will call up an u21 and leave them out of the matchday 26.
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Greenie50
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Agreed. Now that we seem to have something of a conveyor belt going I'd like to keep it moving forward. With making the Play-off there's already a bit of a backlog with the 2002/2003 born players coming through to U21s (too old for U19s). I wonder will there be an U20 camp/friendlies for those lads?
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Technical_method
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The likes of Collins, knight, parrott, omobamidele, obafemi and bazunu are beyond the u21 level now, in terms of their personal development they'll learn nothing.
I think the fact that our best possible u21 team with those players and a fit again Idah etc would give our seniors a close game is a real show of progress over the last few years.
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Fozz
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Yeah, it's tempting, but I'm of the view we should look to fill the gaps in the 21's not with fringe seniors, but lads who've aged out of the 19's with an eye on the next 21's campaign.
In fairness, we already do this as the likes of Mipo, Armstrong, Hodge and O'Neill (off the top of my head) are all available for the next campaign. |
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mouldymould
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