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    Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 2:10pm
The result that is most beloved of Irish football is the 1-1 victory

It is the result that is most in keeping with our national character

A classic 1-1 victory plays out as follows:

We are playing a big away qualifier or a finals match

We go behind early on and look outclassed, but somehow don't fall further behind

The longer the game goes on, the more the traditional Irish fighting spirit comes to the fore

And then, at some point in the last 20 minutes, a bolt from the blue, an equaliser arrives

Such a match is typically accompanied by a memorable facial expression pulled by a player or the manager - which will be later immortalised in an RTE montage - or a memorable commentary line

It is typically symbolised by an Irish lionheart, a Mick McCarthy, a Kevin Moran, a Paul McGrath, a Steve Staunton, a Richard Dunne, a John O'Shea, a Shane Duffy

The one constant in all Ireland's great 1-1 victories is Mr. George Hamilton

We celebrate as if we have won, which we have

On this poll I am restricted to eight choices

But this does not do justice to the depth of this genre

I've had to leave out so many classic 1-1 victories 

Left on the shelf are:
England 1990 at Lansdowne Road
Denmark 1993
The night in Belfast when Alan McLoughlin scored 
Cameroon 2002
Poland 2015
Bosnia 2015
Austria 2017
Denmark 2019
Switzerland 2019

The Czech Republic at Lansdowne Road in 2006, the last game I ever attended at the famous old stadium, was a 1-1 victory, even though we briefly led, amid one of the most raucous atmospheres at the stadium in modern times

And then there's Paris 2009, the ultimate 1-1 defeat, but smothered in moral victory, it is in a category all of its own

Then there are the lesser spotted 0-0 and 2-2 victories

0-0 victories were:
Denmark 1992
Spain 1992
Norway 1994
France 2004
Russia 2011
Sweden 2013
Denmark 2017

Belgium away in 1986 is the classic 2-2 victory
Holland 2000 deviates from the script a bit in that we led 2-0 but was celebrated like a victory
Italy 2009 at Croke Park was a sort of 2-2 victory

Vote early for your favourite 1-1 victory, vote often










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I have voted for Germany 2002

It had all the elements

We were supposedly a rabble after the Irish football civil war

We fell behind early against a footballing superpower who would go on to outclass us, and we stared down the barrel of elimination

Our fighting spirit came to the fore, but we missed chances, and our chance had gone

Until the proverbial bolt from the blue

A memorable facial expression became an indelible part of folklore

The RTE studio panel was in its pomp and Eamon Dunphy was on top form

The country spent the afternoon and evening and night drinking it out of dirty boot in celebration

And the whole thing was wrapped up in a memorable RTE montage soundtracked by "Acquiesece" by Oasis, which played for the following six days

That 1-1 victory, like the Treaty, gave us the freedom to go on and achieve an actual victory, which we did in the next match
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Devrozex Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2020 at 2:35pm
Yeah the 1-1 with Germany in 2002 was both the most impressive and most important.
 
Impressive because it came against the side that went on to be in the final, and important because it meant that all we were required to do in the final group game was beat a terrible Saudi side to guarantee progress.
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Yeah the 1-1 with Germany in 2002 was both the most impressive and most important.
 
Impressive because it came against the side that went on to be in the final, and important because it meant that all we were required to do in the final group game was beat a terrible Saudi side to guarantee progress.

Agreed. It was the only goal Germany conceded on their way to the final.
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Both the German ones were probably the most impressive. Germany being world champions and at home in 2014. 
But the occasion of Germany 2002 and what it meant in basically preventing us from being out of competition, the celebrations, etc. it was definitely our best 1-1 victory 
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Performance wise I reckon it's between Russia in '88, England in '91 and Germany in '02. If we're including extra time, the France game in '09 also has to be in with a shout, although losing the tie obviously takes the gloss of that one.
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The best 1-1s are the games in which the opponent doesn’t recognize our game as playing football at all. 1-1 v the Dutch at italia 90 is the best possible. The quality of their team, their arrogance, and the brutal equalizer from Bonner and Quinn. Perfect
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Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Performance wise I reckon it's between Russia in '88
That was a 1-1 defeat.
An anihilation actually.

Did you not read the criteria above man ?
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Performance wise I reckon it's between Russia in '88
That was a 1-1 defeat.
An anihilation actually.

Did you not read the criteria above man ?

Won a game we should have drawn
Drew a game we should have lost
Lost a game we should have won
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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Performance wise I reckon it's between Russia in '88
That was a 1-1 defeat.
An anihilation actually.

Did you not read the criteria above man ?

Won a game we should have drawn
Drew a game we should have lost
Lost a game we should have won

1-1 defeats:
USSR 1988
Naurrthn Ahhhlund 1995
Belgium 1997
Macedonia 1999
Turkey 1999
Portugal 2001
Russia 2003
Switzerland 2004
Israel 2005
Sweden 2016

0-0 defeats:
Egypt 1990
Poland 1991
Iceland 1996
Lithuania 1997
Wales 2017

2-2 defeats:
Israel 2005
Slovakia 2007
Austria 2013

3-3 defeats:
Poland 1991

Actual draws:
Bulgaria 2009
Bulgaria 2009
Slovakia 2010
Slovakia 2011

Defeats which were actually victories
Spain 1993 home
Portugal 1995 away
Romania 1997 away
Iran 2001 away
France 2016 






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Belfast 93 all day for me, given the significance of the result 
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Performance wise I reckon it's between Russia in '88

That was a 1-1 defeat.
An anihilation actually.

Did you not read the criteria above man ?


I kinda glossed over it. There were an awful lot of words
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Performance wise I reckon it's between Russia in '88
That was a 1-1 defeat.
An anihilation actually.

Did you not read the criteria above man ?

Won a game we should have drawn
Drew a game we should have lost
Lost a game we should have won

1-1 defeats:
USSR 1988
Naurrthn Ahhhlund 1995
Belgium 1997
Macedonia 1999
Turkey 1999
Portugal 2001
Russia 2003
Switzerland 2004
Israel 2005
Sweden 2016

0-0 defeats:
Egypt 1990
Poland 1991
Iceland 1996
Lithuania 1997
Wales 2017

2-2 defeats:
Israel 2005
Slovakia 2007
Austria 2013

3-3 defeats:
Poland 1991

Actual draws:
Bulgaria 2009
Bulgaria 2009
Slovakia 2010
Slovakia 2011

Defeats which were actually victories
Spain 1993 home
Portugal 1995 away
Romania 1997 away
Iran 2001 away
France 2016 





How was Romania 1997 a victory?

Great chat Btw

Best 1.1 draw either NI  93or Germany 02... Toss up

Best 0.0 Norway 94


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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Belfast 93 all day for me, given the significance of the result 
A draw that was actually a victory but also felt like a defeat


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Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:


How was Romania 1997 a victory?

There was a distinctly upbeat tone after it as there was a widespread view beforehand that we could be in for a thrashing

First place had already gone, but second place felt more likely after it

We should have got something that night
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1991 against England  in Wembley  1-1. Niall Quinn scored and Ray Houghton missed a great chance towards the end. Jimmy Hill wrote us off before the game and at half-time. Terry Venables basically asked Jimmy was he watching the same game as the rest of the punters etc. Ireland were brilliant. Paul McGrath was awesome. Mick McCarthy sent Gazza into space with a typical tackle. Mcgrath hit Gazza with another bruiser - game over for him. I was in the main stand among a group of Irish business men who hadn't a clue what was going on. The one chant that got all of us fans going was "you'll never beat the Irish".

Needless to say, I had a go at the  yuppies beside me, and eventually they joined in. Met Brian Kerr on the way out and later at a great function organised by the London RISSC in Nelly's of Willesden Green. He was very impressed with that performance. 

Been to a lot of drawn games, but the result and atmosphere at that game was incredible.
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In 2nd place - 1-1 v Denmark at home in qualifier for USA 94. Without that draw we were toast and the game in Belfast would have been meaningless. In first p!ace, the 1-1 with the Dutch in Palermo. Without that there would have been no Walkinstown Roundabout and the nation wouldn't have held its breath. Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole..
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Originally posted by baresi41 baresi41 wrote:

1991 against England  in Wembley  1-1. Niall Quinn scored and Ray Houghton missed a great chance towards the end. Jimmy Hill wrote us off before the game and at half-time. Terry Venables basically asked Jimmy was he watching the same game as the rest of the punters etc. Ireland were brilliant. Paul McGrath was awesome. Mick McCarthy sent Gazza into space with a typical tackle. Mcgrath hit Gazza with another bruiser - game over for him. I was in the main stand among a group of Irish business men who hadn't a clue what was going on. The one chant that got all of us fans going was "you'll never beat the Irish".

Needless to say, I had a go at the  yuppies beside me, and eventually they joined in. Met Brian Kerr on the way out and later at a great function organised by the London RISSC in Nelly's of Willesden Green. He was very impressed with that performance. 

Been to a lot of drawn games, but the result and atmosphere at that game was incredible.
Neither Mick McCarthy nor Gazza played

McCarthy was injured, I don't think Gazza could have been, he was in his pomp with Spurs in the FA Cup at the time

McGrath got booked for chopping Bryan Robson from behind in the first half

Gazza didn't play at Lansdowne either, Taylor put Sid Cowans in in place of him

I think Taylor felt that Gazza could not handle the pressure

I think that was a crazy decision but at the same time what Gazza did in the FA Cup final shortly afterwards sort of proved Taylor right


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