Liam Delap

doherty wrote: Scissors Kick wrote: doherty wrote: WTF are we even talking about this fella for anyway. Hes got nowt to do with us. NOWT!!!!!! Ah the irony of using nowt is lost on you isn't it  ? Nowt is Anglo English and not Hiberno English, which us Irish speak.  But carry on.  No its a word they use in the Yorkshire/Lancashire area which Manchester is in. Ok. Now take your irony and shove it up your ho#e.

Mate, that level of vigilance sounds insane though. I was one of the posters who brought it to the mods attention you had been banned too long as I thought you brought some good opinions to the forum, but I'm beginning to question that action on my part. I would have thought with the likes of O'Shea spamming love letters to Harry Arter gone you would focus more on posting your useful football opinions than getting into heated arguments, but instead it's taken you no time at all to find a "new O'Shea" to argue with.

Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote: Four-Four-Two wrote: this is the first time i have argued with anyone about clark ? the only insecurity i can see is of those who try to twist logic to say guys like clark are mercenary . personal speaking, i actualy do not care if a player has their only identity as irish so long as they give maximum effort for the team , but with a player such as clark it is simple mean spiritedness and spite that would lead to questioning of their motives . this is a clear example of a 20 year old premiership defender - in other words a novice for this position yet still playing at the highest standard - choosing ireland over england despite having previously captained england and their career being on the up . this is a clear example of a player not known to the fai going to them and initiating the process themself . all of this points to their preference , it is not a case of a middle twenties division two player deciding to play for ireland, it is obviously something different. to try and portray clark and those like him of not feeling irish and having only a career motive needs you to suspend your disbelief and throw out all the logic and facts of the case which suggest otherwise . impartiality and prejudice will lead to this though You used to post as The O'Shea. now that you post everything about irish and eligible footballers in small caps you think everyone will be too stupid to realise you set up a new account after getting banned for trolling. You kept logging in and appearing in the "members online" section  after getting banned and as soon as your new account was created, you stopped logging in under your old one. He wasn't a "regular" when he declared for Ireland either. He started 16 games the season he declared for us and he started 13 games the season after. I explained this to you under your old account but you refuse to listen - just like you refused to listen when I politely pointed out to you that he wasn't playing for England when he declared for us. I even threw in the following quote from Clark: "I was England Under-18 captain but I didn't think I was going anywhere really with that." And of course you manage to somehow contort that into a way that fits your agenda. Clark being pretty much the only outlier in the last 20 years who you could use to fit your narrative - and it turns out even his reasons for declaring for us are because he (rightly) couldn't foresee a future with England, as outlined in the article I linked.

i have no other account , i joined this forum a few months ago having previous been on foot.ie , but there is little posting there so i went here which has more activity and news

Edited by Four-Four-Two - 15 Dec 2020 at 5:53pm

Scissors Kick wrote: doherty wrote: WTF are we even talking about this fella for anyway. Hes got nowt to do with us. NOWT!!!!!! Ah the irony of using nowt is lost on you isn't it  ? Nowt is Anglo English and not Hiberno English, which us Irish speak.  But carry on.

Edited by Hotlips_Hoolahan - 15 Dec 2020 at 4:46pm

this is the first time i have argued with anyone about clark ? the only insecurity i can see is of those who try to twist logic to say guys like clark are mercenary . personal speaking, i actualy do not care if a player has their only identity as irish so long as they give maximum effort for the team , but with a player such as clark it is simple mean spiritedness and spite that would lead to questioning of their motives . this is a clear example of a 20 year old premiership defender - in other words a novice for this position yet still playing at the highest standard - choosing ireland over england despite having previously captained england and their career being on the up . this is a clear example of a player not known to the fai going to them and initiating the process themself . all of this points to their preference , it is not a case of a middle twenties division two player deciding to play for ireland, it is obviously something different. to try and portray clark and those like him of not feeling irish and having only a career motive needs you to suspend your disbelief and throw out all the logic and facts of the case which suggest otherwise . impartiality and prejudice will lead to this though

WTF are we even talking about this fella for anyway. Hes got nowt to do with us. NOWT!!!!!!

I've explained this precise point to O'Shea before and the fact that Clark was by then in the Under-21 age group which he had been continually overlooked for by England for two years, but he is still going to bury his head in the sand and  persist with the narrative/myth that Clark gave up his destiny as future England captain for the glory of a career with the Republic Ireland ,because it gives comfort to the likes of himself and others like him to believe so.