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sausy
Jack Charlton MAYO FOR SAM Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Location: The local Status: Offline Points: 6963 |
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The article says average age, that's just what I'm going by. |
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10531 |
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From my understanding that the initially high death rate, especially in comparison to neighbouring countries, in Sweden, actually caused people to change behaviour, which initially was just "business as usual" as the Government relied on its culture to fight the virus, which proved to be an incorrect strategy.
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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Sweden messed up badly with their Care homes (as did a lot of countries). If they had protected them better their numbers in relation to others would have looked much better. Do we know what the correct strategy is? |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I'm not for a moment suggesting it was the correct strategy, just to be clear! It was the correct reasoning for that strategy though. From my understanding of it there hasn't been a huge change in behaviour there. There was a diabolical f**k-up in care homes there too, as well as difficulties in communities who had moved to Sweden from elsewhere. Like most places, it is incredibly complex, but how they decided what path to follow was correct. I am very sceptical that that path itself was correct but, as they keep saying, time will tell.
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Lenny82
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2914 |
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I keep hearing that it is their culture that has ensured people follow the guidance and direction of the government. Is it a case that their government isn't filled with self-serving, wasteful, incompetent clowns and are therefore more trustworthy?
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39759 |
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We are a nation of cute hoors looking to get away with whatever we can and break every rule until we get caught. You don't realise until you go to Germany. They love rules over there. Now we all know where that lead to 80 years ago but in times like this being German is what is needed. Thye will follow the rules to the letter. The Irish mentality is a complete liability in a pandemic. Germans will not cross a road until there's a green man even at 3am when there;s no traffic or people about.
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Lenny82
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2914 |
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I get that, but those are learned behaviours. I'm pretty sure the German and Swedish government lead by example and practice what they preach, rather than going to golf events in the midst of a pandemic!
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32714 |
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read the twitter thread I posted on the previous thread. Well worth a read
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ConorMac77
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Or driving the length of the country during lock-down and then visiting a castle to 'check their eyesight'.
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The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!!
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Shedite
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Lenny82
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Aug 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2914 |
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I'm not looking to blame anyone else, as I follow the guidelines.
The fact that Sweden did less than us, I.e. closed nothing, is testament to the trust they have in their people to abide by the guidelines and self-police. In Ireland, it is more of a case of 'Do as I say, not as I do.'
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32714 |
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Lenny have you seen the numbers for deaths in nursing homes in sweden.
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Zinedine Kilbane 110
Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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They really messed up at the care homes and that was their biggest failing (other countries did the same) I’m sure they would have done it differently if they could go back in time. The positive impact on the lives/mental state of the people by keeping everything open can’t be underestimated tho. I’m sure they would do the same approach again given the chance.
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Baldrick
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Well without data is hard to over estimate for under estimate the impact on mental health
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hulkhogan
Liam Brady Joined: 23 Sep 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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I never thought I'd say it but at this stage I'd accept a 2 month lockdown if it meant zero covid
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Whacha gonna do
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thebronze14
Jack Charlton Derry City Til I Die Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Location: Dublin/Donegal Status: Offline Points: 7165 |
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Without a doubt at all. The stop start nature of the next few years is going to become tedious in the extreme....I would probably take two months of hard lockdown then a month of free for all over the next few years as at least you would have something to look forward to!
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Shedite
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Roberto Baggio
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You’d then have to close the airports and ports after the two weeks or it would make its way in again
And the north would have to do the same
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