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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Turns out when you have a manager organising his team well and having them well drilled, anything is possible.

Unfortunately for us, our fella is capable of neither of those things.

Take a day off 

Reality hurts? Understandable I suppose when everything you've said on here for 2 years is so absolutely, comically wrong.

Try and enjoy the World Cup and not worry about our issues, thankfully we don’t play for another 4 months.

Also, I have never been wrong on anything I have ever posted on this forum. 

Being real for a second, I dont know how any Ireland fan could have watched that performance and not been extremely frustrated with how we are organised, how we are set up.

Its night and day levels of tactical coaching ability.
Probably because we’re not all miserable f**kers like yourself.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

 
Probably because we’re not all miserable f**kers like yourself.

Case in point.


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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

It's more that a lot of people simply dislike accepting that they were wrong about Kenny.

It's really not. I'd say a large portion of supporters who backed Kenny, which isn't exactly unusual supporting the manager of your team, have seen that it has worked out and wouldn't exactly be putting up a fight for him at this stage. People were hopeful it was a change for the better and hung onto that hope perhaps a little longer than they should of.

It's the one up, schoolyard sh1te every post that's tiring. Some have put it very well why they want Kenny gone on their posts, others are just using it as "I told you so" childish muck. 
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

 
Probably because we’re not all miserable f**kers like yourself.

Case in point.
Can’t enjoy a game of football without crying about Stephen Kenny is pathetic.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

 
Probably because we’re not all miserable f**kers like yourself.

Case in point.
Can’t enjoy a game of football without crying about Stephen Kenny is pathetic.

Good man Franko, don't let me stop you from continuing to prove my point.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

 
Probably because we’re not all miserable f**kers like yourself.

Case in point.
Can’t enjoy a game of football without crying about Stephen Kenny is pathetic.

Good man Franko, don't let me stop you from continuing to prove my point.
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The point about Saudi and us are very valid.

Imagine what Argentina would have done to a Kenny led Ireland



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E2016 and YTM,  leaving aside whether or not the points you make again and again and again about SK are 100% the truth the way and the light, the constant shoehorning of this into every thread is f*****g tiring. It really is. It's not like this is a percentage game, where the more times you state your absolutist position on this the more likelihood it will be accepted as objective reality by the rest of us, and will spread from us to our partners and friends, and ripple out into wider society ans lo and behold one bright shining day the FAI will be so overwhelmed with this tidal wave of TRUTH that Kenny will be sacked and we can start over at another year zero. It's just not that interesting to most of us, and is spamming at this point.
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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

It's more that a lot of people simply dislike accepting that they were wrong about Kenny.

It's really not. I'd say a large portion of supporters who backed Kenny, which isn't exactly unusual supporting the manager of your team, have seen that it has worked out and wouldn't exactly be putting up a fight for him at this stage. People were hopeful it was a change for the better and hung onto that hope perhaps a little longer than they should of.

It's the one up, schoolyard sh1te every post that's tiring. Some have put it very well why they want Kenny gone on their posts, others are just using it as "I told you so" childish muck. 
A few on here were right about Kenny along as Brick Myself and  Stick stand out on that one . 
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The point about Saudi and us are very valid.

Imagine what Argentina would have done to a Kenny led Ireland


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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

It's more that a lot of people simply dislike accepting that they were wrong about Kenny.

It's really not. I'd say a large portion of supporters who backed Kenny, which isn't exactly unusual supporting the manager of your team, have seen that it has worked out and wouldn't exactly be putting up a fight for him at this stage. People were hopeful it was a change for the better and hung onto that hope perhaps a little longer than they should of.

It's the one up, schoolyard sh1te every post that's tiring. Some have put it very well why they want Kenny gone on their posts, others are just using it as "I told you so" childish muck. 
A few on here were right about Kenny along as Brick Myself and  Stick stand out on that one . 

Take that brick out of your mouth 
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I think it's possible to be pro Kenny and accept he's a beaten docket it will be time to move on this time next year. 

There's not much sense in booting him now but the group will take care of that most likely. My main criticism would be the most recent nations league campaign, he knew going into it how strategically important it was in terms of playoffs, ranking and so on. Losing away to Armenia first match left us in a massive hole, and Kenny's luck ran out with the qualifying draw, he was hoping for a handy group and to sneak second most likely.  

Major failures for me: 
losing 3 nil in Wembley losing the unbeaten record, even if the FAI arranged that fixture.
losing to Luxembourg
losing to Armenia
drawing with Azerbaijan
throwing away leads in Serbia, Scotland, Portugal and Ukraine, you can't afford that in international football, even less so as Ireland. 

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the 0-0 playoff in Slovakia played very well
the dead rubbers against Scotland and Portugal





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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:


The point about Saudi and us are very valid.

Imagine what Argentina would have done to a Kenny led Ireland


If your well organised, defensively strong, brave and get a little bit of luck. Anything is possible.

We seem to have entirely forgotten this. An approach that gives us a clear if unlikely path to a trophy. Greece did it in 2004. It can happen again.
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Originally posted by craiglen craiglen wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by B6 6HE B6 6HE wrote:


The point about Saudi and us are very valid.

Imagine what Argentina would have done to a Kenny led Ireland


If your well organised, defensively strong, brave and get a little bit of luck. Anything is possible.

We seem to have entirely forgotten this. An approach that gives us a clear if unlikely path to a trophy. Greece did it in 2004. It can happen again.

In fairness, we weren’t going to be in the hunt for Euro 2004. We had a decent squad at the time and played a nice brand (under McCarthy). Not as big a myth as the common, and misguided, beliefs around Euro ‘92, but I don’t think there was a path to us winning in 04, had we qualified.
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Originally posted by Bukowski Bukowski wrote:

E2016 and YTM,  leaving aside whether or not the points you make again and again and again about SK are 100% the truth the way and the light, the constant shoehorning of this into every thread is f*****g tiring. It really is. It's not like this is a percentage game, where the more times you state your absolutist position on this the more likelihood it will be accepted as objective reality by the rest of us, and will spread from us to our partners and friends, and ripple out into wider society ans lo and behold one bright shining day the FAI will be so overwhelmed with this tidal wave of TRUTH that Kenny will be sacked and we can start over at another year zero. It's just not that interesting to most of us, and is spamming at this point.

I just thought that given the thread title and the following discussion in this thread - which is in relation to our perceived talent pool and how it makes success either incredibly difficult or an outright impossibility - I thought today's result where Saudi were good value for their win over Argentina due to a superbly executed offside trap, great defensive organisation, aggression and ultimately being excellently coached was a great advertisement for what is possible if we had the right set up behind the scenes.

Apologies if the reasoning behind sticking with Kenny becomes more absurd with every passing game that he manages and even ones that dont involve him. I would have thought that the Saudi game and performance today was extremely relevant to us.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

It's more that a lot of people simply dislike accepting that they were wrong about Kenny.

what irish managers were people ever right about?
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