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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8358 |
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😂😂😂 why not? Everything else is apparently
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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Fruice
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Nov 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1259 |
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the gaa has a huge impact because I can assure you there is lads on inter county panels that could have played soccer to a decent level if they had been exposed to structured soccer from a young age the same way they are exposed to GAA from a young age.
The same tradition isn’t associated to playing with your familys soccer team than it is with your family’s gaa club . |
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Terzino
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Back when Holy Catholic Ireland was in full swing the League of Ireland could command large crowds.
I guess the GAA, the Church and Fianna Fáil kidnapped all the fans, the bastards!
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Three of the most common reasons for leaving the country there, directly or indirectly.
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9536 |
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The gaa is good, the gaa is great, we surrender our will as of this date!
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I used to chant that at GAA heads in the pub.
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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8358 |
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Jesus, you could probably say the same for Rugby. Again, Other sports isn't the reason we're not producing quality footballers. The fault lies squarly at the FAI's door
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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MayoMark
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I don't think he's blaming the GAA. What he says is true. They are offering something better than we are currently. That, as you say, lies squarely with the FAI.
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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notpropaganda73
Liam Brady Joined: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Donegal Status: Offline Points: 1036 |
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I find some of PM's comments pretty interesting tbh, as a big GAA head myself. I think calling it Soviet is sorta interesting, because I've seen amazing stuff being done at club level for communities, and when things are moving in sync it's a really great thing to see, people rallying around those in need etc. It does form a pretty special relationship in local areas I've found. There is something very special about that when it happens, but I don't think it's unique to GAA clubs really, any local sports club can do the same thing.
But by the same token I've seen real clannish, clique type nonsense because you get the wrong types in and around the administration of a club, and because of the power of the club in a locality it can have really negative effects for those outside the inner circle. As for football competing with the GAA, I don't really think Irish football needs to be thinking about competing with them. The truth is we piss away participation, there is a lot of good will towards soccer in this country, kids love the sport and if the structures and pathways were there, they would stick with it, but we all know the scéal with the FAI over the last decades.
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zizu Kilbane
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This is a very sensible post.
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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NewtNewbie
Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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I used to receive that kind of stick by dint of my father being born on the other side of the border. 'What foot do you kick with?' 'heathen', 'prod'. That sort of thing. Our school master was also from just across the border, and despite being an avowed Nationalist and Catholic with familial links to the Republican movement, was regularly described as a 'British bastard'. Such was the hatred and bigotry at the time. And, again, it wasn't all that long ago.
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MayoMark
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If we think we aren't competing with them, then we have a massive problem.
I'll give you an example. What does a GAA club offer a young lad who loves both gaelic and soccer in Mayo? Well if you do well you could make senior, you might get called up to the Mayo minor /u20 team. We could win the club championship. What then? It's a straight shot to Croke Park. Dream stuff. But a reality they see first hand as some of their friends have already made senior, one or two called up to county. Their club mate has played in Croke Park. Now what do we have? Well if you play well enough Sligo Rovers might come looking to bring you into their u17 team. That is if they know you exist. But what about Mayo? Well they don't have an u17 team so forget about that. OK, but we could win a national title? We could! And that would be amazing. Where is that played? The Aviva? God no, forget about that. It might be in Terryland, or a field in Clare, or in Castlebar if we are the "home" team. You see what I mean? This is a simple fix for one issue. Why are national finals not all played in our national stadium? This is basic stuff. Whatever way you look at it, if I am trying to win the hearts and minds of young people here, how can I compete with the chance for them to play in Croke Park for their county? |
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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zizu Kilbane
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A big advantage The GAA have is the amount of coaches they employee who go into primary schools. They're getting at the kids early. Why are The FAI not doing likewise? It would seem like a no brainer. The Rugers do it at second level Do the FAI have regional academies even, where they get the best players in a county/ province together a few days a week for training?
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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MayoMark
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GAA getting coaches into schools isn't an advantage, they make it happen. So again, we have to compete. Where are our coaches? Why are the FAI not sending coaches into schools? Already on the back foot
Yes every county has a regional development centre where they train I think once per week. All done in line with the development pathway
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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zizu Kilbane
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One a week is nowhere near enough. Another problem
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MayoMark
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These lads are likely training with their club team, interleague /County team, school team during the week as well. So it's hard to see how it could be done more often. Not to mention the lads who play Gaelic too.
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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Roberto Baggio
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I know up here that the IFA have coaches in primary schools
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Fruice
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I’ll put it to ye this way a young lad down my was playing underage soccer saw him serval times centre mid very effective big strong could score technicalLy not the best but well able. He was a good hurler and footballer also went on to play and start at inter county minor and won an all Ireland had his day in croke park I’d be very surprised to see him play soccer again definitely not for 5 or 6 years. Bang top player gone he could have definitely played on his age for a regional development squad these players are being lost the whole time some of them would come good. This rarely happens with the gaa he will be playing with his club for the next 20 years creating a fierce bond between his family and the club and this stenches generations. The sane link isn’t with the local soccer club. This is not a fault with the gaa it’s fact.
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