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nice triangles
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Location: Villarrica Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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Simply being paid to do something doesn't mean you're going to be automatically better at it. - Its not about being paid to do it, its your job, its all you need to worry about when you get up in the morning, you are paid to train and rest properly, and all of your coaches are also professional. Roscommon, for example, were training 5+ times a week from November to March this year. Anyone involved in any kind of serious rowing squad or athletics training group would be doing this year in, year out, this is not ground breaking - this is decent level amateur commitment. Dublin famously trained about 40 days in a row under Ger Gilroy back when he was manager, and that has since become something that's not entirely unusual. This is a classic amateur approach to training, like cramming for an exam. It all depends what they were doing in training but any decent measurement and feedback part of that programme would have reported diminishing returns to any fitness or strength metrics from day 15 to around day 20. Just because training 5 days in a row is good, training 40 days in a row is not 8 times as good. There are certain strength and fitness metrics GAA players would blow football players out of the water. If you mean professional football players, there is no dataset that exists to back that up. |
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Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34948 |
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This just shows how amateurish it is. Your body needs to recover. All this will do is fatigue the players and make them more prone to injury. I don't really believe it anyway. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9589 |
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That's peculiar, generally when you use the term "cleaning house" it suggests that one side is vastly dominant over the other - in this case, though there have been 42 official "International Rules" test matches, of which Ireland have won 21 and the Aussies have won 19. This must be the first ever case of a side who has lost more than they have won "cleaning house"
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We're decent enough..
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ripbomb
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Athletics and rowing are the only two sports were we punch above our weight
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9589 |
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They train more often than some professional LOI teams - there's nothing about it that's sacred, it's an observable fact. Simply being paid to do something doesn't mean you're going to be automatically better at it. Roscommon, for example, were training 5+ times a week from November to March this year. Dublin famously trained about 40 days in a row under Ger Gilroy back when he was manager, and that has since become something that's not entirely unusual. There are certain strength and fitness metrics GAA players would blow football players out of the water, and vice versa. That's the nature of high level sports, each is going to have it's areas of focus.
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We're decent enough..
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nice triangles
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Location: Villarrica Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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100%....even when Australia send over a development / young team they generally clean house. That is using a round ball as well, which is a massive advantage to the Irish lads. This should be expected though. Its literally the job of the Australians to be fit and strong - they do it every day - like loads here going into the office or wherever you work. Its on a different planet to amateur sports people.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34948 |
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You put these lads up against the Aussies and it's men against boys.
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It was far across the sea,
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nice triangles
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Location: Villarrica Status: Offline Points: 288 |
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No they are not, in most cases they are miles off it - its one of the weirdest 'sacred cows' of modern Ireland, we must all agree that inter county GAA players are nearly as fit and strong as professional athletes, and they are the most committed athletes in the country. This is not true. Anyone who believes this has never been involved in professional sport. They all have jobs outside of their commitment to they club / county - they do not have the time to get anywhere near the level of professional athletes - its not possible. One inter county football manager, of a relatively decent county, was on tv two weeks ago complaining that his panel may have to play 5 weekends in a row - and train 3 times a week. This is the level they are at, this is basic amateur level commitment, nothing over the top - yet this guy thought it was "too much". Sorry, rant over.
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Seanachie
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 11 May 2016 Location: Paris Status: Offline Points: 356 |
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McGuigan didn't consider himself British but held dual citizenship for sporting expediency, so he could represent Northern Ireland in the Commonwealth Games and compete in the British Championships. He never went around saying he was British though and it's no different from thousands of other Irish people who hold British passports, largely through birth.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9589 |
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We're decent enough..
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greenshoots
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 08 Jun 2021 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 451 |
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Of the list of countries you provided, Ireland has a lower population than them all expect for New Zealand (we are ranked 120th, and New Zealand are 121st for population) and Croatia who are 128th. So your logic makes no sense. And why bring a bog ball reference into this? GAA is a huge part of Irish sport and culture. The lads playing Inter county football and hurling are serious, almost professional, athletes. Young lads and girls playing gaelic fotball, hurling, camogie etc. At times to the detriment of other sports such as soccer. It's a fact of life in this country. For those of us in hurling and football dominated counties, it's a fact of life!
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razzmatazaz
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If you're referring to Barry McGuigan, didn't that gobsh*te consider himself British?
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Mr. Snrub
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Rugby Union Golf Boxing This island has produced some of the current greatest golfers and boxers on the planet.
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"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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Trap junior
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Maccatacca
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The truth is we don't punch above our weight in any sports that are globally accessible and played by millions / billions.
Rugby is played by posh schoolboys from British colonies + France, and if it were ever to be taken seriously by big countries we'd shoot down the rankings. Bearing in mind our best players in recent years have been residency-rulers. I'm sure someone will mention a sailor or rower from the Olympics as an argument, but neither are global sports that anyone can just pick up. These are elitest sports. We produce the odd boxer, that's about it. Norway, Belarus, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, New Zealand, Bulgaria, Romania, Finland, Switzerland are just some examples of countries ahead of us in the Olympic medal table. But don't worry, my parish bet your parish in the bog ball last weekend.
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irelandfan
Ray Houghton Joined: 13 Aug 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3658 |
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Don't come on here and dare question the best team in the world.
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I'm the gaffer whatever I say goes.
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Cabra Hoop
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Rugby… played seriously in about 5 countries. I can’t think of much else. Boxing, maybe?
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