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Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Pot 5 for the draw is a much lower standard than normal. Andorra and the Faroes are in there.
 
Potentially could get Denmark, Slovakia, Lux, Faroes, San Marino.
 
Could also get
 
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Moldova.
 
 

Ideally we get some easy hits for confidence. Play them first and get some goals and some momentum.

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Pot 5 for the draw is a much lower standard than normal. Andorra and the Faroes are in there.
 
Potentially could get Denmark, Slovakia, Lux, Faroes, San Marino.
 
Could also get
 
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Moldova.
 
 

Ideally we get some easy hits for confidence. Play them first and get some goals and some momentum.
 
This 5 group
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo
 
and we could be bottom.
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Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Pot 5 for the draw is a much lower standard than normal. Andorra and the Faroes are in there.
 
Potentially could get Denmark, Slovakia, Lux, Faroes, San Marino.
 
Could also get
 
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Moldova.
 
 

Ideally we get some easy hits for confidence. Play them first and get some goals and some momentum.
 
This 5 group
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo
 
and we could be bottom.

Don't think Bosnia and Kosovo can be drawn together for political reasons 
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Germany
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Looking at the pots

Pot1
 Denmark would be ideal even though we gotten them the last few draws var the 5-1 there hasn't been much between us.

Croatia would be my second preference, yes they have some quality players but a lot of their golden generation are coming to the end of their careers they have also been very erratic form wise the last few years

Pot 2

In a heart beat I'd take Slovakia. I know they were missing a few players when we played them but so were we. As I referenced with Croatia their results have been fairly erratic.

Austria would be my second choice, another team we know well but another who we could get something from. 

Pot 4. Luxembourg no explanations neefed

Slovenia would be my second choice here to be honest this is more from a potential travel point though who knows what will happen in regards to that at the moment. 

Pot 5.

One of Faroese, Latvia or Andorra more again due to travel reasons but also I feel other teams in pot 5 would have the possibility of being a difficult task especially Armenia and Kosovo

Pot 6 shouldn't matter who we get from here tbh but Malta would be a nice sun holiday. Moldova would be the only one you'd say could cause issues but I loved Chisnau last time so would happily return. 
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Pot 5 for the draw is a much lower standard than normal. Andorra and the Faroes are in there.
 
Potentially could get Denmark, Slovakia, Lux, Faroes, San Marino.
 
Could also get
 
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Moldova.
 
 

Ideally we get some easy hits for confidence. Play them first and get some goals and some momentum.
 
This 5 group
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo
 
and we could be bottom.

Don't think Bosnia and Kosovo can be drawn together for political reasons 
They’re both Muslim countries. Why can’t they be drawn together?
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Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Pot 5 for the draw is a much lower standard than normal. Andorra and the Faroes are in there.
 
Potentially could get Denmark, Slovakia, Lux, Faroes, San Marino.
 
Could also get
 
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Moldova.
 
 

Ideally we get some easy hits for confidence. Play them first and get some goals and some momentum.
 
This 5 group
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo
 
and we could be bottom.
Also first, second, third or fourth.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Pot 5 for the draw is a much lower standard than normal. Andorra and the Faroes are in there.
 
Potentially could get Denmark, Slovakia, Lux, Faroes, San Marino.
 
Could also get
 
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Moldova.
 
 

Ideally we get some easy hits for confidence. Play them first and get some goals and some momentum.
 
This 5 group
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo
 
and we could be bottom.

Don't think Bosnia and Kosovo can be drawn together for political reasons 
They’re both Muslim countries. Why can’t they be drawn together?

Bosnia is a mix of bosnians, serbs croats not just one ethnic block.
Not sure if they can play kosovo or not. Pretty sure the likes of armenia and azerbeijan though cant be grouped together for obvious reasons
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We're overdue a big name. Last few draws, the Pot 1 teams we've got have been Switzerland and Wales.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Pot 5 for the draw is a much lower standard than normal. Andorra and the Faroes are in there.
 
Potentially could get Denmark, Slovakia, Lux, Faroes, San Marino.
 
Could also get
 
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo, Moldova.
 
 

Ideally we get some easy hits for confidence. Play them first and get some goals and some momentum.
 
This 5 group
Spain, Switzerland, Bosnia, Kosovo
 
and we could be bottom.

Don't think Bosnia and Kosovo can be drawn together for political reasons 
They’re both Muslim countries. Why can’t they be drawn together?

Fairly sure Kosovo can't draw Serbia or Bosnia due to the old conflict/war/genocide
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I can understand Serbia/Kosovo as Serbia doesn’t recognise its sovereignty. I’m unaware of any such issues with Bosnia and Kosovo. Bosnia and Serbia can play each other. Ethnic Serbs in Bosnia can play for Serbia.
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

I can understand Serbia/Kosovo as Serbia doesn’t recognise its sovereignty. I’m unaware of any such issues with Bosnia and Kosovo. Bosnia and Serbia can play each other. Ethnic Serbs in Bosnia can play for Serbia.
 
Could be a Euro 2000 Balkan group of death again!
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Kosovo/Serbia, Spain/Gibraltar, Azerbaijan/Armenia, Russia/Ukraine. I think that could be it in Europe?
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Kosovo/Serbia, Spain/Gibraltar, Azerbaijan/Armenia, Russia/Ukraine. I think that could be it in Europe?

And which was new to me:

  • Winter venues: A maximum of two teams whose venues are identified as having high or medium risk of severe winter conditions can be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Russia, Ukraine.
    • The two "hard winter venues" (Faroe Islands and Iceland) generally cannot host games in March or November, and therefore cannot be drawn together; the others shall play as few home matches as possible in March and November.
  • Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries can be placed in each group:
    • Azerbaijan: with Iceland, Gibraltar, Portugal.
    • Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
    • Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, Faroe Islands, France, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.

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I can understand Serbia/Kosovo as Serbia doesn’t recognise its sovereignty. I’m unaware of any such issues with Bosnia and Kosovo. Bosnia and Serbia can play each other. Ethnic Serbs in Bosnia can play for Serbia.

Bosnia doesn't recognise Kosovo either. The Bosnian government is made up of 3 parts - ethnic Croatians/Ethnic Serbs/Bosniaks - the Ethnic Serb section consistently refuses to recognise Kosovo
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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

I can understand Serbia/Kosovo as Serbia doesn’t recognise its sovereignty. I’m unaware of any such issues with Bosnia and Kosovo. Bosnia and Serbia can play each other. Ethnic Serbs in Bosnia can play for Serbia.

Bosnia doesn't recognise Kosovo either. The Bosnian government is made up of 3 parts - ethnic Croatians/Ethnic Serbs/Bosniaks - the Ethnic Serb section consistently refuses to recognise Kosovo

Exactly. Bosnia doesn't recognise Kosovo for that reason. The logic being if one region of Serbia can secede and be recognised, then the ethnically Serbian part of Bosnia (called Republika Srpska) can secede from Bosnia, which obviously Sarajevo doesn't want to happen
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Pot 1: Belgium, France, England, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands

Pot 2: Switzerland, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Austria, Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey, Slovakia, Romania

Pot 3: Russia, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Czech Republic, Norway, Northern Ireland, Iceland, Scotland, Greece, Finland

Pot 4: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Israel, Belarus, Georgia, Luxembourg

Pot 5: Armenia, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Lithuania, Latvia, Andorra

Pot 6: Malta, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar, San Marino
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