Bulgaria Match Thread

Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote: The doomsday scenario some people proposed once Keane winded down and retired hasn't really materialised, thankfully. Qualified for Euro 2016 and got out of the group stages. Poland scored way more than every other team but Ireland only had 5 less goals than Germany for instance. Qualified for the WC 2018 playoffs in a really difficult group. Again, Serbia scored significantly more than every other team but we scored roughly the same amount of goals as Austria and Wales. We'll have to qualify for Euro 2020 through the backdoor after a poor sequence of results and a lack of goals, but we got what we set up for in 3 of the 4 matches against the good teams - narrow score draws. The Georgia and Gibraltar performances were abysmal and we only scored once over two games against the Georgians, but we have traditionally struggled to break them down, even needing a dodgy penalty during Keane's heyday. Overall, I'd say it's much of a muchness since Keane retired in terms of goalscoring and results. We're still scoring goals. We're doing as well as we ever have against the bigger sides (even winning occasionally). We still win the games against the teams seeded directly below us more often than not. IDK. Maybe we'll have a delayed reaction to Keane's retirement and the '16 and '18 campaigns were just aberrations.

World Cup 1998 - 22 goals - Keane played
Euro 2000          - 14 goals - Keane played
World Cup 2002 - 23 goals - Keane played
Euro 2004           -10 goals - Keane played
World Cup 2006 - 12 goals - Keane played
Euro 2008          - 17 goals - Keane played
World Cup 2010 - 12 goals - Keane played
Euro 2012          - 15 goals - Keane played
World Cup 2014 - 16 goals - Keane played
Euro 2016          - 19 goals - Keane played some part.
World Cup 2018 - 12 goals
Euro 2020          - 7 goals



Edited by horsebox - 01 Sep 2020 at 1:59pm

Absolute horsesh*te being spouted about Keane here. FFS.

Is it any wonder this loon is worried that we're "overhyping" the likes of Connolly and Molumby? According to him, even Robbie didn't live up to his "hype", so what chance would anyone else have of doing so?

horsebox wrote: Dots1982 wrote: his goal record since 2000 against first and second seeds in qualifying groups in his entire career consists of one vs Netherlands, one vs Italy and one vs Sweden. Shane long with far less caps and being far more capable of making a contribution from general play scored group goals vs Russia, Poland and Germany. When Robbie was a first choice he blanked vs Switzerland (2 groups), Russia (2 groups, Bulgaria (one group) Czech rep (1 group), Slovakia (one group) He scored a lot of goals but he wasn’t a clutch player against the best teams in the qualifying groups. I also believe he badly depended on the right partner and the likes of Clinton Morrison wasn’t that. Shane Long has 5 competitive goals in 13 years.

Dots1982 wrote: horsebox wrote: Dots1982 wrote: his goal record since 2000 against first and second seeds in qualifying groups in his entire career consists of one vs Netherlands, one vs Italy and one vs Sweden. Shane long with far less caps and being far more capable of making a contribution from general play scored group goals vs Russia, Poland and Germany. When Robbie was a first choice he blanked vs Switzerland (2 groups), Russia (2 groups, Bulgaria (one group) Czech rep (1 group), Slovakia (one group) He scored a lot of goals but he wasn’t a clutch player against the best teams in the qualifying groups. I also believe he badly depended on the right partner and the likes of Clinton Morrison wasn’t that. Shane Long has 5 competitive goals in 13 years. And two of those goals were key in qualifying us to 2016 which is the name of the game.

wow

just seen this on twitter. Find that a bit mad. 

Has Robbie been called up again?

The O'Shea wrote: Dots1982 wrote: his goal record since 2000 against first and second seeds in qualifying groups in his entire career consists of one vs Netherlands, one vs Italy and one vs Sweden. Shane long with far less caps and being far more capable of making a contribution from general play scored group goals vs Russia, Poland and Germany. When Robbie was a first choice he blanked vs Switzerland (2 groups), Russia (2 groups, Bulgaria (one group) Czech rep (1 group). He scored a lot of goals but he wasn’t a clutch player against the best teams in the qualifying groups. I also believe he badly depended on the right partner and the likes of Clinton Morrison wasn’t that. Robbie's record is astounding, it is absolutely beyond reproach. How anyone can even try to argue that a man who has scored almost 3 times as many goals as our next highest scorer wasn't simply incredible is beyond me.

I see the Bulgaria Match Thread has gone off on a wander