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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

people actually think Jack Byrne will be starting lol. Cultish! He will get more chances for sure but do my a favour. 20 minutes off the bench at best. Kenny’s starting 11 will be different to McCarthy but he won’t be using the nations league as some experiment. Preparation for Slovakia and World Cup playoff spot on the line.

You seem fairly convinced of this. Now I assume if you have been watching Jack for the last year (which is why you have drawn this conclusion). So based on watching him, would you be able to give a brief synopsis as to why he wouldn't start? 

He won’t start because kenny will pick the players playing at a higher level first. He isn’t just going to the exile the likes of Jeff Hendrick and Conor Hourihane just because McCarthy couldn’t get a tune out of them. Kenny will probably think I can get these players playing to their maximum potential. So expect Jeff Hendrick, James McCarthy, Conor Hourihane, Alan Browne, Harry Arter, Jayson Molumby, Josh Cullen and Jason Knight, Robbie Brady and Callum Robinson all to be above him initially in the pecking order. I would be astounded if Byrne starts against Bulgaria. Do you think Ronan Curtis should start too? He’s ripping it up in League 1!
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Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

people actually think Jack Byrne will be starting lol. Cultish! He will get more chances for sure but do my a favour. 20 minutes off the bench at best. Kenny’s starting 11 will be different to McCarthy but he won’t be using the nations league as some experiment. Preparation for Slovakia and World Cup playoff spot on the line.

You seem fairly convinced of this. Now I assume if you have been watching Jack for the last year (which is why you have drawn this conclusion). So based on watching him, would you be able to give a brief synopsis as to why he wouldn't start? 
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Ireland included in the list of countries now allowed into Slovakia without quarantine 

On the Visit Bratislava website the list of restrictions in place is listed and i presume any sporting events would fall under this, wonder would there be scope for change as the months go on?

Mass events – from June 10, maximum of 500 persons, from July 1 until the end of the year, maximum of 1,000 people.



Sporting events in Slovakia are actually allowed in front of fans now at 50% of stadium capacity 
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Tbh I can understand why, but I think we are clutching at straws. Best hope now will be the world cup qualifiers in March. (Draw November 29th)
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Originally posted by Robsham1 Robsham1 wrote:

Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Ireland included in the list of countries now allowed into Slovakia without quarantine 

On the Visit Bratislava website the list of restrictions in place is listed and i presume any sporting events would fall under this, wonder would there be scope for change as the months go on?

Mass events – from June 10, maximum of 500 persons, from July 1 until the end of the year, maximum of 1,000 people.





UEFA are likely to make a blanket decision rather than leave it to individual countries from the sounds of things so wouldn't be basing my hopes on that.


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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Ireland included in the list of countries now allowed into Slovakia without quarantine 

On the Visit Bratislava website the list of restrictions in place is listed and i presume any sporting events would fall under this, wonder would there be scope for change as the months go on?

Mass events – from June 10, maximum of 500 persons, from July 1 until the end of the year, maximum of 1,000 people.
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He won’t be experimenting no. It’s fascinating to see going forward. Odds on we won’t qualify but I don’t think I’d ever look forward to a tournament as much as the Euros if we make it. Just the timing of it the proper core of defenders we have the strong batch of younger players in midfield and attack a year older/with another year of men’s football under their belt not to mention McCarthy back potentially I would be optimistic we’d surprise a few there. 
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people actually think Jack Byrne will be starting lol. Cultish! He will get more chances for sure but do my a favour. 20 minutes off the bench at best. Kenny’s starting 11 will be different to McCarthy but he won’t be using the nations league as some experiment. Preparation for Slovakia and World Cup playoff spot on the line.
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I'd say Hendrick won't play in Sept if he hasn't played club games before then, which seems highly unlikely now.
Doesn't rule him out of any Oct games tho so still plenty of time for him for Slovakia.
Sept games should be to blood a few lads and get the rest playing to whatever new plans and systems he has lined up.
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

By the time the Bulgaria games comes around Hendrick will not have played a game in 7 months and shouldn't be considered 



All the reason to play him so he gets games under his belt before the Slovakia game. 
No.... Hendrick has underperformed for years... time to give someone else a chance
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

I’d strongly suspect overall in a 25 man squad including Manning who Kenny will be licking his lips at and flying with QPR and McCarthy they will both make it you will get 8-10 new faces in the squad a 2/3 of the young midfielders I’d suspect Obafemi as well as Connolly and no doubt one of the young CBs at the moment that would be Dara O’Shea on his form and he destined for the PL with West Brom. 

Think O’Shea is more of an RB at the moment 
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Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

By the time the Bulgaria games comes around Hendrick will not have played a game in 7 months and shouldn't be considered 



All the reason to play him so he gets games under his belt before the Slovakia game. 
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By the time the Bulgaria games comes around Hendrick will not have played a game in 7 months and shouldn't be considered 
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I’d strongly suspect overall in a 25 man squad including Manning who Kenny will be licking his lips at and flying with QPR and McCarthy they will both make it you will get 8-10 new faces in the squad a 2/3 of the young midfielders I’d suspect Obafemi as well as Connolly and no doubt one of the young CBs at the moment that would be Dara O’Shea on his form and he destined for the PL with West Brom. 
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Ireland included in the list of countries now allowed into Slovakia without quarantine 
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No one says hel gut the squad. It’s well documented who’s going to be playing in goal and at the back maybe Coleman for Doherty or both. McCarthy would be a new face again but an experienced one. You will see Molumby/Smallbone/Cullen/Knight/Roman getting one spot in midfield if they keep playing for their clubs and doing well which they are. McCarthy coming back increases the chance of 2 of those 5 playing alongside him as he’s an experienced head to compliment him. Certainly 2 if not 3 of those 5 will be in his squad.  He could also play Brady or Hendrick in midfield who knows. The young attackers Connolly and Obafemi mainly will undoubtedly be in the squad Connolly id suspect starting as a winger or in a back 5 up front if he keeps playing the way he has been for Brighton he will be starting in the autumn. 
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I wonder will SK give  a squad place to the better ball players we have available who are technically very good . The likes of Will Smallbone/Callum o Dowda / Jack Byrne or even Liam Kelly ( who is not able to make the Oxford United team at present but certainly has a lot of talent ) . Connolly and Idah should make his first squad but not Obafemi yet as I don’t think he’s been great for SK when used for U21s . Shane Longs general play and ball control seems to have improved over the last year too and he should come back into squad 
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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

anyone that thinks Stephen Kenny is going to gut the squad doesn’t know the man. There will be changes but a lot of the younger players have not yet broken through to their own teams yet .

Agreed - he’ll focus on getting the best out of what we have, but I do think that can include promoting younger players and improving competition. He’s already talked up McCarthy, Arter, and Molumby, which should light a fire under our current midfield crop 


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