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Liam Brady Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2957 |
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Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 8:36am |
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No. Hasn't even made the bench since the restart.
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Green Cockade
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Jan 2020 Location: Belfast Status: Offline Points: 2645 |
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Has Conor Noss featured yet ?
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BohsinMunich
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From a quick glance at the recent Bundesliga games pretty much all teams used 5 subs
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Lenny82
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I wouldn't have thought that many clubs use their 3 subs every game as it is.
Remember when Mick McCarthy made 12 substitutions in a friendly?
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
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Surely the "problem" you're referencing runs far deeper than whether teams can use 3 or 5 subs? You're speaking about the extreme financial differences between sides, which manifests itself in far more important and impactful ways than how many subs you can use...
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We're decent enough..
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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That would interest me less than why they voted for it. Perhaps it is altruistic.
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Het-field
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Like I said, I can disagree with them. I don't necessarily feel that I should take a great deal of notice of how football administers itself, in the current climate.
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No breakdown of how many clubs voted against this in the PL statement unfortunately. |
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So, if I understand correctly, you think this is a problem for small teams and they disagree - Is that the crux of it here?
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I would be curious about this too, but I guess we are unlikely to know.
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Het-field
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Clubs can vote how they want. I still have an opinion on this, especially as I am still reticent to accept that the league should be back this quickly.
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Borussia
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And if it was such an issue, why are most of these smaller clubs voting for this temporary rule change?
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Het-field
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Its relative, so it can be said with a straight face. The gap in resources between some promoted teams, or annual PL "also-rans", and the likes of Manchester City is eyewatering. I appreciate that there are numerous teams in Europe that have fallen behind, and are now being outbid, but that is a product of modern football, and the rush towards the "Champions League". However, if the likes of City can rest a group of players, for a game, and not be bound by previous rules, that can have a material difference. Equally if clubs can bring on a player (who is number 4/5) who proceeds to score, or set up a goal, that would be something which would not have happened prior to the shutdown, so its occurring on different terms. There is agreement on this, however, I still feel that it is problematic, as it has the potential to impact games, in a way that traditionally it wouldn't.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
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If the "smaller clubs" (I'm surprised you can say that with a straight face considering EPL relegation fodder can often outbid former powerhouses on the continent...) are that hard up for players, it's likely their first 11 would be losing anyway regardless of how many subs are allowed.
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We're decent enough..
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That makes more sense, the initial post suggested it was due to Covid. I will remain sceptical though.
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Het-field
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Honestly, I would say that's the point. Its a fundamental change to a key rule, which will allow bigger clubs empty their bench, while smaller clubs, may, in a material sense, only have two or three options from the bench, while the rest are PL2 players. It alters the course of a game, in a different level to what was applied throughout the season. Also, why 5? Why not 4? Or 7. How is it judged that this will give appropriate respite?
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All leagues are adopting it. And for the PL to adopt if, 14 teams would have had to have voted for it which they obviously have. It's ultimately for player protection so for those clubs who maybe rely heavily on one or two players, this may actually suit them better. It's only a temporary measure anyways.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9485 |
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Blatently it is to counteract the dual effects of:
1. A condensed game schedule 2. Decreased fitness following a prolonged break from training. It's entirely unsurprising really, I'm not sure why it would cause a shock.
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We're decent enough..
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