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    Posted: 22 Apr 2020 at 9:32am
I know there have been a load of these threads down through the years but seeing as there is almost nothing else to do at the moment, thought I'd have a stab at this. You had to have seen the players in the flesh. Beat Ireland XI since I started going to games in 1996:

GK - Shay Given 

RB - Steve Finnan (most difficult position to pick, we've had serious right backs over the past 30 years, Carr, Coleman, Gary Kelly, Doherty. Finnan shade it for me, champions league winner etc)

CB - Richard Dunne 

CB - John O'Shea 

LB - Denis Iriwn (Ireland's greates ever full back)

RW - Damien Duff (mostly played on the left or upfront for us but his best game against Spain in WC 2002, he tormented them playing in the right)

CM - Roy Keane (Captain)

CM - Wes Houlihan 

LW - Kevin Kilbane (THE GOAT)

CF - Johnny Walters 

ST - Robbie Keane



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Irwin should have had 100 caps.
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I am going to base mine on service/performances for Ieland rather than club career.  

Given 

Hughton 

McGrath 

Moran 

Irwin 

Whelan 

Keane 

Brady 

Houghton 

Keane

Stapleton 


Tough to leave out Duff, Dunne, O'Shea,  Lawrenson,Townsend sheedy, Aldridge, Quinn and loads more. 

With the exception of Given all of these played for top clubs competing for cups and leagues etc.    





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Given
 
Coleman
Dunne
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Irwin
 
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Ronnie Whelan
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Duff
 
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Given- Bonner was always a favourite and I would rather have in, but Given was class at his best. Was probably overrated by many within the Irish support, myself include, at times, who claimed he was world-class, he was short of that, but he was excellent. 


Finnan- A position we with the most choice. In my time there has been a few contenders, including dropping Irwin in here to accommodate Stan or Phelan on the left, but Finnan was an excellent right-back who went about his business quietly and assuredly. 

McGrath-  No debate. One of the few genuinely world-class players to play for us. He might have been better without the demons, but it wouldn't have been as interesting. 

Dunne- Just ahead of O'Leary as I missed out on his best days and so did Ireland, to a degree.  Settled down to become a top class player after an inconsistent start to his career. A 100% man and old school defender. 

Irwin- Consistent defender and a lovely footballer. 

Sheedy- I only really caught the end of him, but what a left foot! The standout in an excellent Everton team.

Keane- Leaving the controversy aside, what a player! Everyone goes on about his determination and leadership on the field,  but he was technically brilliant too. Never gave the wrong pass.

Townsend- A vital part of the Charlton game plan. As annoying as he became as a pundit, he seemed to get what the fans wanted from a player and tried his best to deliver it. 

Houghton- I loved his scampering style, he was a fine footballer who will always be fondly remembered for those goals and, less fondly, for that miss!

Quinn- What a touch, for a big man. Underrated as a footballer by many who remember him as just a target man. His control was excellent though and, despite all the 'Mother Teresa' jibes, seems a genuinely decent fella.

Keane- May not be the best player to play for Ireland,  but is undoubtedly the best player for Ireland. An unbelievable contribution. 

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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Irwin should have had 100 caps.

Where would you get the extra 44? 100 is a stretch given he was playing in the old Division 2 till he was 24 and we were well stacked with full backs on either side when he was playing. Beglin, Hughton, Morris, Langan, Anderson, Staunton at the start of his career and Kelly, Carr, Finnan, Kenna, Harte all playing top end Premier League at the other end. Kelly and Carr had two appearances on the PFA team of the year which matches Irwin's haul and Harte and Finnan made it once.

I think Irwin was our best full back but it's understandable why he didn't make the century.  Am sure there were a few matches Fergie pulled him out of as well. 


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In hindsight i'll change Coleman and replace him with Steve Finnan in my team.
Finnan was excellent and very consistent.
Coleman's choice for me initially was really based on his club form, he has never replicated that for Ireland for a consistent run of games.
 
Can't have John O'Shea anywhere near the team either. Seems a great lad and had some club career but never really rated him as a player
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O'Shea got better as he got older. He was all over the place as a young fella.
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O'Shea got better as he got older. He was all over the place as a young fella.
 
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Only those I've seen in green

Given
Irwin
Staunton
McGrath
Lawrenson
Roy Keane
Brady 
Giles
Duff
Robbie Keane
Stapleton

No Whelan Galvin, Moran , O'Leary , Heighway , Coleman , O'Shea , Bonner, Beglin (had he played more definitely) , Quinn, Houghton , Dunne and many more.  
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I think finnan is very lucky to be in peoples teams.  A sold quiet full back who didnt play that much for Ireland and often lost put to carr or kelly or even p shea at times.  I cant think of many stand out performances.  Had an excellent club career.  But really Kelly or Staunton deserve to be ahead of him  I have gone for hughton during my time.  

Also who picked kilbane over duff whelan and sheedy :) in their midfield (they had houghton in it( 
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Irwin should have had 100 caps.

Where would you get the extra 44? 100 is a stretch given he was playing in the old Division 2 till he was 24 and we were well stacked with full backs on either side when he was playing. Beglin, Hughton, Morris, Langan, Anderson, Staunton at the start of his career and Kelly, Carr, Finnan, Kenna, Harte all playing top end Premier League at the other end. Kelly and Carr had two appearances on the PFA team of the year which matches Irwin's haul and Harte and Finnan made it once.

I think Irwin was our best full back but it's understandable why he didn't make the century.  Am sure there were a few matches Fergie pulled him out of as well. 

I am not saying he should have had them ahead of others, i am just saying his ability deserved it.

Ahead of Kenna and Phelan for me for what it's worth. 
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Irwin should have had 100 caps.

Where would you get the extra 44? 100 is a stretch given he was playing in the old Division 2 till he was 24 and we were well stacked with full backs on either side when he was playing. Beglin, Hughton, Morris, Langan, Anderson, Staunton at the start of his career and Kelly, Carr, Finnan, Kenna, Harte all playing top end Premier League at the other end. Kelly and Carr had two appearances on the PFA team of the year which matches Irwin's haul and Harte and Finnan made it once.

I think Irwin was our best full back but it's understandable why he didn't make the century.  Am sure there were a few matches Fergie pulled him out of as well. 

I am not saying he should have had them ahead of others, i am just saying his ability deserved it.

Ahead of Kenna and Phelan for me for what it's worth. 

Meant to have Phelan in that list actually. We were absolutely overloaded with quality full backs in that era. 
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100 caps is hard to achieve. And I think the uniting factor of all our “Club 100” players is that they made their debut between the age of 17-20 and all (apart from Kilbane) attended more than one major tournament. That also applied to Quinn and McGeady (and theoretically McGeady might make it).
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Old terry phelan!!! Good player with.pace to burn.
Always remember his goal against Spurs in the FA Cup at Maine Road. Was a consolation goal late on to make it 4-1 or 4-2 I think.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Old terry phelan!!! Good player with.pace to burn.
Always remember his goal against Spurs in the FA Cup at Maine Road. Was a consolation goal late on to make it 4-1 or 4-2 I think.
 
 
 
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