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for what it’s worth no drop in AZ stock price this morning suggesting the 65+ story last night is mostly rumour.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

AZ have issued a statement saying not true.   Reports are coming from media in Germany. 

Hopefully this turns out to be not true.  It’s a disaster if it’s true. 
It's far from a disaster. Lots of treatments have different drugs dependent on the age/gender/health of a person. We have a vaccine for over 65's, we have a vaccine for under 65's. No big deal
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

AZ have issued a statement saying not true.   Reports are coming from media in Germany. 

Hopefully this turns out to be not true.  It’s a disaster if it’s true. 
It's far from a disaster. Lots of treatments have different drugs dependent on the age/gender/health of a person. We have a vaccine for over 65's, we have a vaccine for under 65's. No big deal

If this turns out to be true it massively delays the roll out of the vaccine in the community to over 65s.  Many over 65s would have been hoping that their GP could give them the vaccine in Feb/Mar.  This along with the delay to the supply of the vaccine to the EU mean that is unlikely to happen to a large cohort of the over 65s.  The logistics of the AZ vaccine is far simpler and efficient and can be done by GPS, this is not true for Pfizer and unlikely at the moment for Moderna.  

If you are over 65 and thought you may be vaccinated in the next 6 to 8 weeks, the news on AZ over the last few days If true is a disaster.  
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That report in a German paper was completely wrong
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seems that the percentages were the amount of people tested in the over 65s rather than efficacy, shocking journalism by the German paper. 

Edited by Baldrick - 26 Jan 2021 at 10:23am
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Somebody is getting sacked! 
 
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Did the Brits rob some of our AZ vaccine that we pre financed for development and production?
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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Somebody is getting sacked! 
 
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

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Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Did the Brits rob some of our AZ vaccine that we pre financed for development and production?

Nobody can seem to get a straight answer from AZ
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Did the Brits rob some of our AZ vaccine that we pre financed for development and production?

Nobody can seem to get a straight answer from AZ

Well they said the distribution to the UK is not impacted.

Basically means we can’t meet our deadlines so instead of reducing deliveries to the UK AND EU, we are taking all the reduction from the EU numbers.

I see the EU are hitting back saying their may be delays with the Pfizer vaccine made in the EU being delivered to the UK.

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There seems to be some nit picking regarding products.
EU v AZ, wonder is it slightly because of Brexit.
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Where are the AZ manufacturing plants and can exports be legally blocked?
Who owns the intellectual property of the vaccine and in what jurisdiction?
Still a lot of questions to be answered.

AZ have screwed up here - not flagging their manufacturing project was behind until the last minute.

I suspect there will an agreement of some sort with the poorer non EU / UK countries impacted most.
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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Where are the AZ manufacturing plants and can exports be legally blocked?
Who owns the intellectual property of the vaccine and in what jurisdiction?
Still a lot of questions to be answered.

AZ have screwed up here - not flagging their manufacturing project was behind until the last minute.

I suspect there will an agreement of some sort with the poorer non EU / UK countries impacted most.

The IP is owned by England as it's main Headquarters is based in England.

It's just boiling down to alot of frustration, Pfizer are shutting down it's production factory for 3 months at a very inconvenient time and AZ are failing to meet supply demands to anywhere outside of England. It's looking likely countries based in the EU are going to end up starved of vaccines for a period.
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AZ in manufactured in Belgium
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Where are the AZ manufacturing plants and can exports be legally blocked?
Who owns the intellectual property of the vaccine and in what jurisdiction?
Still a lot of questions to be answered.

AZ have screwed up here - not flagging their manufacturing project was behind until the last minute.

I suspect there will an agreement of some sort with the poorer non EU / UK countries impacted most.

The IP is owned by England as it's main Headquarters is based in England.

It's just boiling down to alot of frustration, Pfizer are shutting down it's production factory for 3 months at a very inconvenient time and AZ are failing to meet supply demands to anywhere outside of England. It's looking likely countries based in the EU are going to end up starved of vaccines for a period.
Have looked everywhere online about this but can't find that story. Why would they be shutting their production plants in the middle of a pandemic?
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

AZ in manufactured in Belgium

Is that not Pfizer?
AZ has 3 plants with 2 being in the UK.
The other one is Holland I believe. 

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