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daithi
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Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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coyne
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It’ll be an actual lockdown this time. Wales are already under tough lockdown but as guideline rather than law because it’s pretty hard to police the River Severn and the skies
Boris was told in September lockdown 2 was needed but didn’t because every government prefers money over life but today’s meeting the advisers showed the NHS is about 2 weeks away from being overwhelmed which has made him reluctantly make the decision
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 32747 |
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there is a cohort of people who will only support a lockdown when it gets like Bergamo in Feb/March. Until it’s like that they will argue it’s premature.
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AKA pedantic kunt
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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144 Covid deaths is Belgium's latest daily figure
Last four daily figures for Belgium: 144, 138, 132, 139
Population of Belgium: 11.6 million Perhaps the edgy INTERNET experts™ can now see why Level 5 was recommended by NPHET? Or would that be too much to hope? |
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Shedite
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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You've missed the board altogether there Very pdc (person denying clothes) style |
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Deane
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So Ireland is one of four EU countries where the 7 day incident rate is down.
Everyone will be praising level-5 restrictions, is it not true that it takes a few weeks before any lockdown measures have an effect?
So in reality the nationwide level-3 restrictions are what caused the incident rate to go down. |
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9536 |
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Why is the clothes thing and issue now and not during the first lockdown?
Genuine question.
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McG
Moderator Group SISAO? What the hell is SISAO? Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Christmas Island Status: Offline Points: 26981 |
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Because so many were in fear the first time around. 100s of people being carried out in bodybags in Italy and being broadcasted everywhere, people didnt give a f**k about clobber.
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YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017
AS YOU WERE McGx |
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seanyshuffler
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Fair enough! I just worry if clothes shops open, they'll all push to reopen. Maybe they can just allow mixed retail (food and clothes) to open?
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sid waddell
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Good article by Naomi O'Leary, I can't disagree with any of ithttps://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/the-west-has-failed-us-and-europe-have-made-a-mess-of-handling-the-crisis-1.4395473The West has failed – US and Europe have made a mess of handling the crisisWestern leaders have been insular slow learners at every stage of the Covid pandemicThe pandemic response has been politicised and captured by tiresome culture warriors, while restrictions are blamed for economic damage that is an inevitable as long as coronavirus roams. Contain it, and normality returns. There is no normal economy with a virus that kills and debilitates the human beings that make it up. How did we get here? All kinds of absurd stereotypes about Asia were used to support the Western exceptionalism that underpinned our bad policies. All the successful pandemic control techniques, including mask-wearing, contact-tracing, and compulsory quarantine, were initially dismissed as authoritarian and culturally inappropriate for the West. They were categorised as something only China would do, ignoring that these techniques were central to the successful pandemic response of democracies from Taiwan, to Japan, to South Korea. Ever-protesting Hong Kong is the example that makes particularly hilarious the idea that Asian people are just more “compliant” or “don’t love freedom” like the West. Australia and New Zealand are majority white ex-colonial societies that don’t fit into this confused thinking anyway. Their practices were dismissed as “cutting themselves off from the world”. Australia will soon open up with New Zealand, and Hong Kong with Singapore, gradually expanding the bubble of safety. It is we, the virus-riddled Westerners, who will be isolated indefinitely. Rather than learning from what already worked, we chose Hail Mary technological fixes that didn’t exist yet, like contact-tracing apps and vaccines, to justify business as usual. Behind all of this was exceptionalism. Infectious diseases were viewed as a developing-world problem that the West had outgrown. We underfunded and neglected pandemic response. Many leaders and influential people had an inappropriate lack of alarm and grasped at fairytales that minimised the threat of the virus, the kind of false sense of invulnerability of people too sheltered to fear things. This exceptionalism often took the form of the “it only kills the sick and the old” mantra. This is false: one in 10 people under 50 suffer enduring damage from the virus and it has always killed randomly. It’s also cruel: it treats the lives of any happy retiree, any mother of four with ovarian cancer, any young man with cystic fibrosis as disposable. Its iteration in policy is deciding not to eliminate the virus while telling the vulnerable to cocoon, which means confining about a third of the population to indefinite house arrest, a weird flex by the governments of the world’s oldest and sickest populations, who rely on the votes of those people to stay in power. This false separation of the strong and the weak also misunderstands society. People share accommodation. Grandmothers raise children. And people at risk of death from the virus are the very same who run our healthcare systems. Like 46-year-old Diego Bianco of Italy, an ambulance paramedic who died in bed after telling his wife not to worry. Or 28-year-old Dr Adeline Fagan, who died last month in Texas after working shifts in the coronavirus emergency ward. Or Boy Ettema (42) a nurse who died intubated in his own hospital in the Netherlands. Western governments treated their healthcare workers like load-bearing infrastructure, with policy aimed to “not overwhelm” hospitals. But governments are not so all-powerful as they delude themselves, that they can precisely calibrate how many people get sick at once from a highly infectious virus according to how many beds are available. When they err, they gift their much-applauded healthcare workers the trauma of choosing between patients. Excuses could be made for ill-preparedness at the start of the pandemic. But Western leaders have been insular slow learners at every stage. And the failure to act effectively when cases were brought down to low levels during the summer – an achievement hard won with sacrifices by every citizen – is hard to forgive. Western governments now emphasise that individual responsibility will determine the course of the pandemic. “The path it takes depends on YOU,” as Minister for Further and Higher Education Simon Harris tweeted this month. Societal co-operation is vital. But no individual citizen has the power to put in place an effective testing and tracing system. All the self-delusion has been self-defeating, as in a kind of tragic irony, the pursuit of each aim has led to its defeat. In the name of saving the economy, the strategy over the summer was to get rid of the restrictions, not the virus. The European Commission’s “Reopen EU” website, with its little cocktail glass icon that allowed users to see if bars were open in their holiday destination, appears an absurd folly now that the rush to save the tourism and catering industries has bought us a crushing new wave of infection so severe it threatens to make the EU’s vaunted €750 billion stimulus agreement obsolete. In the name of “freedom”, Western governments would not contemplate mandatory quarantines. Taoiseach Micheál Martin recently dismissed such practices in the Dáil as “statist”. Targeted, enforced quarantines for a few were unthinkable for the West. So now there are blanket restrictions on us all. What is more free? Which is more statist? All states involve a trade off between citizens and their rulers: taxes for services, common rules for safety. The point of a state is to create the conditions for its citizens to thrive. The West has failed. |
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Boris doing a presser at 4pm.
Was originally intended for Monday but now the worst kept secret is out it's been brought forward
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Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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Any idea how long it will be? I assume they are looking for a 4/5 week hard lockdown?
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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He's pushed it back to 5pm but the craic is full hard lockdown from Wednesday until Dec 1st. The sources leaked are saying Boris and Sunak are still looking for ways around it hence the delay but it's inevitable
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hulkhogan
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Can you not just order socks on Amazon?
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Whacha gonna do
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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ITV and BBC have the English lockdown summary in an hour's time -
All English regions moving into tier 4 - Everything shutting except from Schools, Colleges, Uni's, Essential shops and Courts - Buying clothes will be allowed Outbound flights banned - I can imagine alot of neighbouring Nations will be glad at this All regions to stay in Tier 4 until Dec 1st where they'll be downgraded into the previous tiers depending on infection rate
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15254 |
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Edited by Newryrep - 31 Oct 2020 at 4:46pm |
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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MayoMark
Moderator Group The NEW angrier Freewheeler Joined: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Castlebar Status: Online Points: 26319 |
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Massively encouraging drop in numbers. As always terrible that people are losing their lives
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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