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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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The definitive "One-Nil!" commentary by Colemanballs |
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Olaf
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Herd immunity is the only long-term solution to Covid-19 but the idea has wrongly become “taboo”, a leading scientist has said.
The concept currently “provokes hostility and controversy” but it must be revisited, according to Raj Bhopal, emeritus professor of public health at Edinburgh University. In a new article published in the journal Public Health in Practice, he argues that the Covid-19 pandemic has put ministers in a “zugwang” which is a position in chess where every move is disadvantageous and where every plan must be examined “however unpalatable” it might be. Herd immunity is when enough people become resistant to a disease - through vaccination or previous exposure - that it can no longer significantly spread among the rest of the population. With no vaccine available for Covid-19, herd immunity relies on enough people in the population becoming infected to lessen the impact of the disease. Prof Bhopal argues that even if a vaccine is found it may not work well for older people and those with underlying health conditions. The side-effects from a vaccine might also be worse for children and young people’s health than catching coronavirus in the first place. Advert
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Yes and no really. The young are usually asymptomatic and pass it on to the parents and then co-workers who then pass it on to elder generations and then it becomes a problem. And because this is a 2nd strain the elder generation don't have the antibodies for it. Even if lockdown 2.0 happened absolutely no one will abide to it, they'll just go on a 200 mile drive to test their eye sight like a certain someone did.
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ConorMac77
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The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!!
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Some witch hunt going on here for some lad because he got tested on Wednesday, went out on the lash on an all day bender yesterday without getting his result back and today he tested positive
Family pubs and all sorts he went to during his all day bender. He’s single handedly closed down a dozen places! |
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Double Maxim
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Apparently it's Davis Kellor- Dunn who plays for Wrexham.
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Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
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Jackal
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I have been to a few pubs this weekend and it's obvious the pubs will be going back to normal on the 10 th. I'm currently in a pub and there must be over 50 people in here, there's not enough space for special distance. Food is optional. Garda station is only around the corner.
The Gardai clearly don't care. They have better things to do.
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Drumcondra 69er
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FrankosHereNow
Roy Keane I like Klopp Joined: 02 Jun 2011 Location: El Sadar Status: Offline Points: 12139 |
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I think this lad is a bit of a spoofer.
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YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Second wave is hitting Australia to the point they’re imposing draconian measures;
Not allowed outside between hours of 8pm and 5am unless working and only allowed 5km when you are allowed out. This second wave appears to be hurting the countries who cleaned up the first wave so I fear when it hits mainland Europe hard.
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Olaf
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 13 Jul 2020 Location: Far away Status: Offline Points: 269 |
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Australia never had a wave, hence why now it’s appearing to hit harder. They’d a terrible testing record as well. America looks horrific, but they’ve tested more then anywhere else in the world pretty much from day 1. The reality in Europe is, the likes of Spain Italy England those the virus would have killed, its already killed a lot of them. Europe had a good flu season last winter with a lower level of deaths than normal. But let’s not talk sense, let’s get the hazmat suit out. England/Spain for example, cases are rocketing... no rocketing in deaths. We where told there would be a spike from Black lives matter, Liverpool celebrations when they won the league, same for Leeds. Boris has told us two weeks the U.K. will have a spike. 6 days away and there’s f**k all signs of that either.
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tetsujin1979
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Some clown yer are!
Cases are absolutely rampant in England and Spain right now. R rate over 1 in 26 different councils, Madrid and Barcelona totally out of control. Already explained the demographics why there's no spike in deaths, if you wanna be that thick please yourself but there's other factors involved such as long-term implications scarring of the lungs to be considered also so no having 20 year olds or 30 year olds isn't a good thing at all. Also America looks horrific because it actually is horrific - There's states like Florida never really locked down to begin withand Texas where you're discriminated for actually wearing a mask so horrific is a generous word it over there!
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Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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The numbers don’t seem that high in Australia but that’s when you compare them to the UK / Brazil which have never been in control. They are heading into Winter so looking to stop it now. They can do what NZ did but then they need to close the airports. But like NZ, no tourists means massive loss of income for a high % of the population.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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The numbers only tell half the story sometimes. The best measure they use is how many days will it take for the current number to double, Italy and the UK back in April were doubling every 3 days for example.
Spain was only getting 500 cases per day when they were put back on the red alert list then it jumped up to 3000 then last 2 days they haven't reported any numbers cos they don't have a clue it's that bad now. Likewise with Luxumbourg who are the only other European country on the red alert list, only 90 cases per day but a small dense population cos turn into thousands in 3 days easy. Edited by coyne - 03 Aug 2020 at 9:51am |
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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One word: lag
At least one poster here needs to find out what it means
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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There's no drastic rise in deaths because there's a four to eight week delay in those figures. People dying today almost certainly caught it in June.
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