Coronavirus - Remain Calm. Do Not Panic

Monday numbers are always lowest

Trap junior wrote: Cabra Hoop wrote: Trap junior wrote: Cabra Hoop wrote: Denis Irwin wrote: No deaths reported  No sign of The Grim Treaper then. Doomed i teii ya, doomed. Seriously though Leo photo in the phoeno with his Joe cuddys, zero new deaths, a lot of Europe opening up and yet the safetyists still calling the shots. Now it's time for the govt to get off the pot.  Some people are beyond thick if you think that no deaths today is the result of the disease just fizzling out due to nature.  To get to this point the human race has had to ammend its behaviour in a unprecedented large scale manner.  International travel has all but ceased, shops closed for 2 months, schools and exams cancelled, socialisation coming to a stop, thousands dying before their time but yeah it was all a media overreaction.   If people hadn't done what they done for what 12 weeks or so now do you think things would have worked out ok? Another reason to stop posting in this thread.  Dealing with absolute Dime Bars. Sorry kid, nothing I said disagrees with your assessment for today's zero number. Nothing. Do you not understand that after 12 weeks of self disciplined some of us would like to see some sort of dividend for following orders especially when we see most other countries making statements about opening up lockdowns. Everything here is No because this "could" or "might" happen. This really comes down to his you see things. It's irrelevant whether you feel you deserve a reward for 12 weeks of a lockdown.  Lockdowns should be lifted when its safe to do so and not just because some other countries are doing it or because you now feel tired from it. What do you mean could or might happen?  If we went back to usual tomorrow its a guarantee the virus will spread wildly again and then another extended lockdown will be put in place.  If people think this is over just because there were no reported deaths today you are sadly mistaken.  Its declining in prevalence due to hard work on everyone's part.  We could be back to square 1 in weeks if people stop caring.

You've reinforced my point -  people see the pace at which lockdown eases differently. Some are a bit more eager to a faster easing others, some of whom might too carefree in their attitude. Others are too cautious perhaps even slightly paranoid. My opinion is that id like to see lockdown eased a little quicker but not a free for all. I think the decision makers are too cautious and not proactive.

Could be an absolute coincidence but the madman Trump made a theory that the virus would ease off when the warmer weather comes.

Trap junior wrote: You only have to look at the UK and America at Governments who didn't take the threat of this seriously.  Better to be over cautious than under cautious.  If international travel resumes to normal things will be disastrous come next winter. Could you imagine thousands of yanks coming in with the virus or Paddies coming home from Spain and Ibiza with it.

Don't think it's beneficial to compare ourselves to any other country be it the US or New Zealand. Mentioning that other countries are being more proactive to easing the lockdown is a different matter. Through the discipline of the people here we have successfully managed to flatten the curve which I thought was the objective in order to keep the hospitals from being overrun. We will never be able to eradicate C19 so we must live to live with it. Being extra cautious in easing of the lockdown delays us from learning to live with it. You might suggest that we've flattened the curve for now which is true but any whataboutery is purely speculative and overly cautious in my opinion. We seem to be hamstrung by inertia and cannot make a decision for ourselves without having someone to blame if it goes wrong.

coyne wrote: Could be an absolute coincidence but the madman Trump made a theory that the virus would ease off when the warmer weather comes. It sounds outrageous but the timings now that Europe is going out of lockdown does reinforce his theory. I’m not defending him, just thinking outside the box

European counties are very slowly exiting Lockdown due to the actions of the citizens and subsequent flattening the curve.

Edited by Dalymount79 - 25 May 2020 at 10:17pm

Dalymount79 wrote: coyne wrote: Could be an absolute coincidence but the madman Trump made a theory that the virus would ease off when the warmer weather comes. It sounds outrageous but the timings now that Europe is going out of lockdown does reinforce his theory. I’m not defending him, just thinking outside the box European counties are very slowly exiting Lockdown due to the actions of the citizens and subsequent flattening the curve. So a super spreader at a super spreader event (gyms, gigs, etc.) can trigger a cluster. choir practice was called out as clusters can traced back to them.

Cabra Hoop wrote: Trap junior wrote: Cabra Hoop wrote: Trap junior wrote: You only have to look at the UK and America at Governments who didn't take the threat of this seriously.  Better to be over cautious than under cautious.  If international travel resumes to normal things will be disastrous come next winter. Could you imagine thousands of yanks coming in with the virus or Paddies coming home from Spain and Ibiza with it.   Don't think it's beneficial to compare ourselves to any other country be it the US or New Zealand. Mentioning that other countries are being more proactive to easing the lockdown is a different matter. Through the discipline of the people here we have successfully managed to flatten the curve which I thought was the objective in order to keep the hospitals from being overrun. We will never be able to eradicate C19 so we must live to live with it. Being extra cautious in easing of the lockdown delays us from learning to live with it. You might suggest that we've flattened the curve for now which is true but any whataboutery is purely speculative and overly cautious in my opinion. We seem to be hamstrung by inertia and cannot make a decision for ourselves without having someone to blame if it goes wrong. I agree that Varadkar is not proactive but reactive and imo didn't have the balls to impart a lockdown and introduce legislation in time and had to wait until other countries started to do it before he acted and yet the media thought he had great leadership. For example the nursing home debacle, the open border policy, the legislation that was only passed last week about ordering 14 day quarantine on incoming people into the country. A complete joke. Overall I'd give him a C-.  As far as ''living with the virus'' goes.  Yes we do have to 'live with it' but the impression I get from people is that their interpretation of this phrase is that we go back to normality, open the pubs and book foreign holidays and let a certain percentage of people get sick and another percentage die from it.   That's not what living with the virus means.  It's not going back to things the way they were but opening up business and services to get the economy going but maintaining a new normality in which crowds are avoided in order to keep the virus at a manageable level.  It means going to work with strict hygiene rules, or working from home, opening shops but again with strict regulations and going about life with limited social interactions.  Any widespread complacency that we are over this and we will be back in the sh*te very quickly. I don't get the same impression of people's perception of "living with it" as yourself. Any one I now takes it to mean good hygiene, social distancing is the norm and accepting queuing being mandatory. Can't believe you think people actually believe "living with it" means people will die if we want a sense of the new norm. Think the word "living" is a hint...