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rolo
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As Ive said before: poor threshold for testing. The virus is everywhere in the UK. Its rampant. Death rate has to be way lower than what figures suggest. 30-40k cases of covid-19 in UK - no chance its anywhere near that low.
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horsebox
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The figures in the US are incredible.
Sweden whereby it's business as usual, their numbers are still quite low at 6k. Belarus still only at 350 |
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They are going down the route to trust individuals to be sensible. A lot are wfh and keeping social distancing. It’s probably similar to the UK but they don’t need to enforce people to kop on. |
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Roberto Baggio
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Belarus’ government is recommending vodka and saunas to stop the virus
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randyrandolph
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The issue is no one with the virus is being recorded. I'm just coming out of 2 weeks of this virus. My whole household had it, yet none of us will be recorded despite calling 111/ local GP. The figures are completely made up. The virus is everywhere here in london. Most people will get it over the next month or so.
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rolo
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Absolutely agreed. I had a friend who had it about 5 weeks ago, rang 111 and they said its likely the common cold, isolate but you’re not for testing. Posted about it on here actually and one poster took me to task over it for reasons still unclear to me. Since then Ive had friends who are doctors become ill after confirmed contact with a Covid Positive patient (who wasnt even suspected covid when they were treating the pt) and they were told sorry no tests, isolate. No contact tracing, no test, end of story. Been a joke in the UK since Day one and I’ve said that all along. As for the PPE, (personal protective equipment) I wont even let myself get started on that, on this lovely Saturday!
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pre Madonna
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I took the piss, and I really cannot be any clearer about this, because you said she was a doctor who did nothing about it. That is negligent. Your friend should either be struck off for negligence or ****ishness.
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pre Madonna
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I think this was where I had the difficulty understanding and why it felt apocryphal, at best. There has been far too much 'purple monkey dishwasher' stuff since this broke out.
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rolo
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Struck off? For what?
Getting Coronavirus? She did everything correctly. Self isolated. Phoned 111. Phoned occupational health at her hospital. End of story. |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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And left it at that? Come on, nobody can possibly think that is right! I don't think a doctor should, or could, see failings like that and shrug their shoulders. Again, back to my original questions; why did she ring you? Why not get an opinion from another doctor? I know doctors aren't supposed to self-diagnose, but if she was sure she got it she would surely have spoken to somebody else? My language is deliberately hyperbolic because you are using an apocryphal story to prove a point. That your point is correct doesn't make using it correct. I would say it is part of the problem.
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McG
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sometimes i think you just throw about uncommon words to try win a joust. apocryphal ffs. Uncertain would have done or doubtful.
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pre Madonna
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But not as accurate. Also, wouldn't 'debate' or 'argument' have done?
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rolo
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She spoke to a few doctors. Not that that was necessary. She was pyrexial for three days, with dry cough, SOB, and sore throat. Unfortunately nobody can prove they have it currently without the swab test. She was denied a test. Since then loads more people have been denied it too. Thats not a secret. Its openly the policy in at least one NHS Trust not to test healthcare staff but instead tell them to isolate if symptomatic (this may have changed since but was the case two weeks ago). So we still disagree. No problem.
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pre Madonna
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Like I said, we are agreed in why you felt the need to make the point, it is the how that makes me sceptical. If my scepticism is unwarranted, I apologise, but that is how it feels. When a story confirms my bias, but still leaves me with more questions than answers, that scepticism kicks in.
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randyrandolph
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i don't get this debate. If you have it, there's nothing you can do. you cant go to a hospital (unless you cant breath) and you cant go to your GP. There's no point calling 111 because it takes over an over to get through and then they tell you to self isolate for 14 days.
you cant prove you have it unless you can test. and you cant. NHS staff now can test (not easily i might add) but that only came in last week. i have a cousin who is a junior doctor and he's been told to work until he physically cant. he's been told everyone will get this. its a complete sh*t show here in the UK and there will be a huge death toll here. Edited by randyrandolph - 04 Apr 2020 at 12:40pm |
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pre Madonna
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Pedantry; boredom; my nature , they would be the three main ones. Your last line is, unfortunately, entirely correct. I think Britain and USA will be the two countries to be hit worst by the outbreak, due to complete mismanagement of it. There is probably a link to the voracious capitalist nature of both states and governments, but it isn't really the time for that either.
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Jackal
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The Russians might come along and tell yer man there what to do. They normally do.
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coyne
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Even Trump called Boris’ strategy crap. It’s a bit like getting kicked by an amputee. The main downfall was choosing 1 plan then backing out of it.
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