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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

J and J will be approved here within two weeks. We are due 2.2 million doses by end of March. Serious dent. Light at the end of the tunnel Clap

This is fantastic news 
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Talk that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine in people who are obese drops hugely.   Has not been peered reviewed yet but if true will cause big issues. 
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Talk that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine in people who are obese drops hugely.   Has not been peered reviewed yet but if true will cause big issues. 
where are you reading this - until I see a well regarded writer / publication Id caution and suggest it’s an anti vax rumour.
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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Talk that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine in people who are obese drops hugely.   Has not been peered reviewed yet but if true will cause big issues. 
where are you reading this - until I see a well regarded writer / publication Id caution and suggest it’s an anti vax rumour.
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I am certainly not anti vax I read it in the guardian. 
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Talk that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine in people who are obese drops hugely.   Has not been peered reviewed yet but if true will cause big issues. 
How big ?
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Talk that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine in people who are obese drops hugely.   Has not been peered reviewed yet but if true will cause big issues. 
How big ?

Give me a third dose and I'll be fine 😊😊
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Talk that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine in people who are obese drops hugely.   Has not been peered reviewed yet but if true will cause big issues. 
How big ?


Usually defined as BMI of 30 and above but as most people know BMI is far from a perfect indicator.  I think in the uk those with BMI of 40 and above are being prioritized along with others with health issues.  

Anyway the Italian study is fair small so we will see.  There is no peer review full study as of yet. 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

J and J will be approved here within two weeks. We are due 2.2 million doses by end of March. Serious dent. Light at the end of the tunnel Clap

This is fantastic news 

Wow that’s brilliant news.

2.2M doses would cover everybody at high risk and then some. 
Hopefully they can get them out in a few weeks by having mass vaccines sites. 

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Talk that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine in people who are obese drops hugely.   Has not been peered reviewed yet but if true will cause big issues. 
How big ?


Usually defined as BMI of 30 and above but as most people know BMI is far from a perfect indicator.  I think in the uk those with BMI of 40 and above are being prioritized along with others with health issues.  

Anyway the Italian study is fair small so we will see.  There is no peer review full study as of yet. 
Read that article yesterday, thought I was being jocular. Obviously didn't make a big impression.

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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Looking possible that the UK's all-in hand is now looking like a busted hand.

Brazilian variant found in Gloucestershire but the person who sent it via post didnt put any details name/address sending the test.

Brazilian variant has been found to bypass antibodies which has concerned SAGE to the point they're holding a press conference for a Nationwide hunt for this person, all they know is he/she arrived from Heathrow Airport.
Could they not potentially be isolating at home pending the result?

Yes but the other major risk factor is they don't know how she got from A to B - If she used a cab, a tube, or bus.
And because they don't know who it is they can't trace.

So, what you are in fact saying is there are a lot of unknowns here - Right? 
A comment like "Looking possible that the UK's all-in hand is now looking like a busted hand." would indicate some sort of clear indication of this being the case. 

Would it not be best to wait and see what actually happens and then panic when there is a reason to panic? Worrying in advance does nobody any favours. 

Coyner, who lives in the UK, desperately wants the UK to fail.

What does all in even mean? Every major country is doing the same - get the current vaccine out as quickly as possible.
It’s the best possible play right now. 

We really don’t know if the Brazil variant bypasses the current vaccines completely. 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Looking possible that the UK's all-in hand is now looking like a busted hand.

Brazilian variant found in Gloucestershire but the person who sent it via post didnt put any details name/address sending the test.

Brazilian variant has been found to bypass antibodies which has concerned SAGE to the point they're holding a press conference for a Nationwide hunt for this person, all they know is he/she arrived from Heathrow Airport.
Could they not potentially be isolating at home pending the result?

Yes but the other major risk factor is they don't know how she got from A to B - If she used a cab, a tube, or bus.
And because they don't know who it is they can't trace.

So, what you are in fact saying is there are a lot of unknowns here - Right? 
A comment like "Looking possible that the UK's all-in hand is now looking like a busted hand." would indicate some sort of clear indication of this being the case. 

Would it not be best to wait and see what actually happens and then panic when there is a reason to panic? Worrying in advance does nobody any favours. 

Coyner, who lives in the UK, desperately wants the UK to fail.

What does all in even mean? Every major country is doing the same - get the current vaccine out as quickly as possible.
It’s the best possible play right now. 

We really don’t know if the Brazil variant bypasses the current vaccines completely. 



 
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

J and J will be approved here within two weeks. We are due 2.2 million doses by end of March. Serious dent. Light at the end of the tunnel Clap
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

J and J will be approved here within two weeks. We are due 2.2 million doses by end of March. Serious dent. Light at the end of the tunnel Clap

Pretty sure it's not 2.2 million by end of March, 2.2 million is the total order.

J&J is scheduled for 600k doses in Q2

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364280979267981312/photo/1
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

J and J will be approved here within two weeks. We are due 2.2 million doses by end of March. Serious dent. Light at the end of the tunnel Clap

Pretty sure it's not 2.2 million by end of March, 2.2 million is the total order.

J&J is scheduled for 600k doses in Q2

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364280979267981312/photo/1

That sounds more realistic. 

"200 million J&J vaccines have been promised before the end of March to the EU and Ireland is set to receive 2.2 million doses. This raises such questions as who should receive which vaccine and what makes it different from the other vaccines."

That's from here :
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2021/0301/1199970-johnson-and-johnson-covid-19-vaccine/
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

.....Anyway

Did we hit 100k vaccinations for the week? 

According to COVID18DataIE on twitter there were 350,322 doses administered on Saturday the 20th - https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1364167123409326083 - by Friday that was up to 426,070 - https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1366340443101929472 - so 75,748 in the six days to Friday.
The numbers for Saturday will be released tomorrow, but if they only averaged 10,821 per day (75,748 / 7) last week, it'll probably only be around 85k-87k for the week
88k hit. 
Next weeks target downgraded to 90k 
UK did 450k last Friday alone 
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

.....Anyway

Did we hit 100k vaccinations for the week? 

According to COVID18DataIE on twitter there were 350,322 doses administered on Saturday the 20th - https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1364167123409326083 - by Friday that was up to 426,070 - https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1366340443101929472 - so 75,748 in the six days to Friday.
The numbers for Saturday will be released tomorrow, but if they only averaged 10,821 per day (75,748 / 7) last week, it'll probably only be around 85k-87k for the week
88k hit. 
Next weeks target downgraded to 90k 
UK did 450k last Friday alone 

Due to a delay in two AZ delivery,

89K or there about done last week instead of 100k.

This week circa 88k instead of 92k.

AZ expected to deliver the delayed order for next week with no overall impact on March targets according to HSE.

No figures published for next week yet and wont be until Thursday during the weekly press conference, HSE say the impact of AZ delivery delay to be mostly caught up with next week.




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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

.....Anyway

Did we hit 100k vaccinations for the week? 

According to COVID18DataIE on twitter there were 350,322 doses administered on Saturday the 20th - https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1364167123409326083 - by Friday that was up to 426,070 - https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1366340443101929472 - so 75,748 in the six days to Friday.
The numbers for Saturday will be released tomorrow, but if they only averaged 10,821 per day (75,748 / 7) last week, it'll probably only be around 85k-87k for the week
88k hit. 
Next weeks target downgraded to 90k 
UK did 450k last Friday alone 
WE need to stop comparing our vaccinations to the UK, they have a completely separate delivery strategy, we're part of the EU's strategy, and we're doing pretty well compared to the other countries
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