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colemanY2K
Roy Keane Fresh minty breath Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 14959 |
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It's all to do with perception and fair enough it may look busier to John Swift but the actual data doesn't back up people's perceptions.
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Online Points: 10684 |
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I think it also drives people's opinions on the mandatory quarantine even the the numbers coming into the country are tiny.
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colemanY2K
Roy Keane Fresh minty breath Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 14959 |
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Ah ya and a bit of racism added in for good measure.
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Dalymount79
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Cabra Hoop
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Yep, and how do the same people expect the guest meat factory workers on low wages to pay for 14 nights quarantine in a hotel ? I'd imagine the only reason they come here is to work as many hours as they can, keep overheads low given rise to overcrowding and go home with money for their families. They are unlikely to come if they have to pay for quarantine. And if the meat factories have a shortage of workers, the farmers will suffer. Catch 22.
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Online Points: 10684 |
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On the meat factory workers though, is it not the case that system here actually worked i.e. those who had it got tested and were already isolating so it hasn't spread (and hopefully doesn't) ?? That isn't to say there aren't a lot of things that have been done wrong.
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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10823 |
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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BigStrongMan
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Nothing about take away pints from Mehall??
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PM me for all forum moderation queries.
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9fingers
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What to ban them!?
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Jackal
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It was mentioned in the Dail during the week that the meat workers isolation wasn't being enforced. The meat workers have awful conditions. They lived in share houses. The rent is docked from their wages meaning they would be lucky to make 250 a week.
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Beavis
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Wow. You're quite an unpleasant individual, or is it just someone who's reasonably placed daring to counter your obsessive view has got you so pissed? Your point about Covid morbidity directly keeping people out hospital is WRONG (though I’m sure you're probably better placed than I am to know these things). It’s the fear of the hospital and the constraints of public health policy, that are keeping people out, not the reality of the situation. People were presenting less often and later, and way fewer services were operating normally, even when Covid inpatient numbers were way down. For the last time – and I’m bowing out because of
your inability to be civil, and the fact that I don’t have the time you have to
sh ite on about this all day - I'll spell it out: My source is a systemic
review by British Medical Journal (you say elsewhere you trust "British
Science" yet somehow not the BMJ, which is the backbone of British medical
academia). Your source is a twittter counter. Read if you can take
your head out of the cases/lockdown trough for a split second. Although the evidence
for social distancing for COVID-19 is limited, it is emerging, and the best available
evidence appears to support social distancing measures to reduce the
transmission and delay spread. The timing and duration of these measures
appears to be critical.[392] [393] When comparing countries with more
restrictive nonpharmaceutical interventions (e.g., mandatory stay-at home and
business closure orders) to countries with less restrictive nonpharmaceutical
interventions, implementing any nonpharmaceutical interventions was associated
with a significant reduction in case growth. However, there was no clear,
significant beneficial effect of more restrictive nonpharmaceutical interventions
compared with less restrictive nonpharmaceutical interventions in any of the
countries studied. It should be noted that the study has important limitations.
https://bestpractice.bmj.com/topics/en-gb/3000201 I.e. complete early
lockdown probably works; different levels of lockdown reduce case growth but no
definite hard endpoints seen. Again, if we’re accepting all the harms, surely, we
need something more solid than this. Edit - taking out the personal abuse, last warning Edited by nvidic - 24 Feb 2021 at 7:53am |
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sid waddell
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@Beavis
You don't even understand my point and you didn't answer my question I can indeed be quite unpleasant with people, especially trolling fools like you who are determined to reject reality I asked you how more Covid would help cancer services - because you implied that missed cancers were happening because of lockdown and not Covid This is WRONG It's as if Covid doesn't exist to you and you believe that people can pretend Covid doesn't exist To call this a misunderstanding and misreading of the situation and of basic human psychology is an understatement Your complaint about unpleasantness while simultaneously calling me a **** is noted |
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MayoMark
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Taoiseach Micheál Martin said this means:
by the end of April, up to 47% of people over 18 will have had their first dose by the end of May, up to 64% of adults will have had their first dose by the end of June, up to 82% of adults who can be vaccinated will have received at least one dose and 55% - 60% will be fully vaccinated That's a fair acceleration. Hopefully comes to fruition
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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Lenny82
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Anybody see a breakdown by age category for these percentages? 64% of adults must be everyone over the age of 40, I would have thought.
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Everybody over 25 at least I'd say
19% of the population are 60 or over
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TRV
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Most posters in here probably practicing bending over to get their vaccine , queuing up for big pharma
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Baldrick
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There is no way that 36% of the adult population are between 18 and 25. 40 seeks more plausible.
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AKA pedantic kunt
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McG
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