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deco911
Ray Houghton Reg Hunter Joined: 19 Jan 2012 Location: county kerry Status: Offline Points: 4341 |
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Ya cause I’m from Limerick not Kerry so wasn’t genuine insult from small yak
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Trigboy 10
Liam Brady Joined: 02 May 2015 Status: Offline Points: 1322 |
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Yiksheemash
500 Club la la la I don't have a penis. Joined: 01 Aug 2011 Status: Offline Points: 530 |
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He's not that type of FFer to to join SF.
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10610 |
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GP had their hustings yesterday about endorsing the PFG. I think the undecided voter needs to avoid considering 2007 as reason to avoid joining up, as times and circumstances are very, very different. I also feel that there has to be mature realisation about what can be achieved when you could potentially wag the dog for five years, in a way that few minority parties could.
This is a unique opportunity for the Greens, and I think they should be cautious about assuming retaining their current level of popularity, if they decide to sit in the opposition benches. Many of the GP voters I know voted with the hope of them influencing Government. They have something available to them here, and without them the Tune being danced could be that of rural, right wing independents.
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Green Cockade
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Jan 2020 Location: Belfast Status: Offline Points: 2680 |
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The Greens are in an invidious position. A two thirds majority within their own membership looks a high enough hurdle but in reality they have nowhere to go. If they don't deliver, they will be savaged by an angry electorate forced back to the polls in the midst of a pandemic. If they do go in, circumstances may indeed be different from last time but they will still be outmanoeuvred as necessary by the two big Civil War parties and take the fall guy role that goes with the job description for junior partner. Some of their more astute members, including some of their best people in NI, know this and are perturbed about it. They can't win and the coalition is likely to become very unpopular very quickly once normal politics resumes. The big winners are likely to be SF-either going into a fresh election from a position of strength and leeching support from FF in particular but the Greens also, or leading the opposition for the first time as the most popular party in the country and across all of Ireland. Interesting times.
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Trigboy 10
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Jackal
Liam Brady Joined: 14 Sep 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1354 |
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No matter what FF or FG do, the Greens will get the blame. They are a townie party, mainly Dublin. The rural voters hate them. Already, they are being blamed for things they have no control over.
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Jackal
Liam Brady Joined: 14 Sep 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1354 |
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It's like the end of Independence Day. 'Hello Boys, I'm baaaaaaack.'
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FrankosHereNow
Roy Keane I like Klopp Joined: 02 Jun 2011 Location: El Sadar Status: Offline Points: 12160 |
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Smart move by the Shinners.
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YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018.
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9537 |
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What are people's thoughts on the new cabinet. Say there's a lot of angry grassroots members over Donnelly's appointment.
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colmoc
Jack Charlton serious foot fetish Joined: 09 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 7582 |
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Eamonn Ryan minister for transport
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10610 |
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Ryan getting Transport and effectively the old Environment brief is a huge coup. While Martin in Communications will make them extremely influential around the cabinet table. At first look, this justifies the decision to enter government. I am excited at the potentials here, and I’m delighted the Greens have entered Government. FF/FG participation was less in doubt and it will be interesting to see how they coexist. I’ll also be interested to see how coordinated Labour and the SDs will be in opposition, as I feel they will be generally singing off the same hymn sheet.
The Shinners have already embarrassed themselves over the Holohan thing, and the clown parties over the unnecessary and personalised fight they picked, with the judiciary.
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Online Points: 39815 |
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Who has been appointed Minister for General Mayhem?
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NewtNewbie
Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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Basically, it doesn't matter who you vote for in Ireland, the result is the same.
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Online Points: 39815 |
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1-1?
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10610 |
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Thats not actually true. There was a time you’d get a FF overall majority, we have gone so far that the two major parties are coalescing with an unusually large third coalition partner.
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NewtNewbie
Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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The national scoreline! Sums it all up.
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NewtNewbie
Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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And the difference In material terms is what? It all amounts to keep the Shinners out. Until they can't.
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