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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

So....Rice and the uncapped Grealish, then? The likes of Harry Kane, James Madison, Gazza, etc don't count as they never wore the green. Very early days re Smallbone but I would trust Stephen Kenny to be on the ball on these matters. Even Martin O'Neill had the wit to give Michael Obafemi his debut at a very young age to make sure he was our player before Nigeria or England did.
He was forced to imo
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Maybe. He did prevaricate about it, Michael is credited with making an unequivocal decision on it but the wording of the statement giving O'Neill credit was obviously crafted by an agent. End result is that we have an outstanding young player who wants to play for Ireland. No complaints.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Maybe. He did prevaricate about it, Michael is credited with making an unequivocal decision on it but the wording of the statement giving O'Neill credit was obviously crafted by an agent. End result is that we have an outstanding young player who wants to play for Ireland. No complaints.

Did he prevaricate? I thought he was just very hesitant. 
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Scissors Kick Scissors Kick wrote:

Like Rice mentioned Randolph when he was in the chose your words carefully phase you mean ? :)   paranoia is justified, until a ref blows to start a game for points with him on the field. 

No, paranoia is not "justified", it's chosen. The excessive scepticism really is ridiculous when you think about it, what percentage of underage players who line out for us actually end up defecting? 
Approximately the precise percentage that are actually good enough to play for England. Depends if he thinks he is?

Plenty of English born guys who have played for us could have won a few caps for England, just look at how average many of the guys capped by England over the last 20 years have been. Are you seriously suggesting that its impossible for an English born player to favour playing for Ireland for any reason other than not being good enough for England?
No I don't think there's any English born player this century to capped by us would've got more than a couple of caps for England. I don't think its impossible but unlikely, maybe if their family is all Irish but I don't think we've had any of those since Killbane and Breen. All the ones England have shown any real interest in - Keane, Grealish, Rice - have defected.
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Kilbane and Breen were never near good enough to play for England.
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Kilbane and Breen would likely have been at least called up by England at some stage. They'd never have played much, but they might have won a few caps. Certainly, they didn't just play for Ireland because they were "England no-hopers", they genuinely considered themselves Irish.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Kilbane and Breen would likely have been at least called up by England at some stage. They'd never have played much, but they might have won a few caps. Certainly, they didn't just play for Ireland because they were "England no-hopers", they genuinely considered themselves Irish.

I don’t think either would have ever been called up. Actually I’d nearly be certain about that. 
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Originally posted by Pauldaly1984 Pauldaly1984 wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Kilbane and Breen would likely have been at least called up by England at some stage. They'd never have played much, but they might have won a few caps. Certainly, they didn't just play for Ireland because they were "England no-hopers", they genuinely considered themselves Irish.

I don’t think either would have ever been called up. Actually I’d nearly be certain about that. 

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Maybe not for full caps but didn't Kilbane turn England down at underage level, telling them he wanted to play for Ireland ? And don't forget the reverse ferrets of the two Keanes ( Michael and Will, that is, not Roy and Robbie ).
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Maybe not for full caps but didn't Kilbane turn England down at underage level, telling them he wanted to play for Ireland ? And don't forget the reverse ferrets of the two Keanes ( Michael and Will, that is, not Roy and Robbie ).
Aye McCarthy was still trying to talk w Keane up near the end. 🤔
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Kilbane and Breen would likely have been at least called up by England at some stage. They'd never have played much, but they might have won a few caps. Certainly, they didn't just play for Ireland because they were "England no-hopers", they genuinely considered themselves Irish.

Not that they'd have accepted the call up, either of them but it wouldn't have come anyway. 
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

"I'm taking time out to concentrate on my club football"

I suppose he said that on your Football Manager save.

On my save Bamford played for us 
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starts vs Watford. Long also starting. Obafemi on the bench. 

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First time properly seeing him. He looks a decent player and he's covering back very well. 

Surprised he isn't in the U-21 squad yet. He's bound to be called up to it if not the seniors. If he plays more games, would like to see Kenny call him up for the NL games. 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

First time properly seeing him. He looks a decent player and he's covering back very well. 

Surprised he isn't in the U-21 squad yet. He's bound to be called up to it if not the seniors. If he plays more games, would like to see Kenny call him up for the NL games. 

Doubt he was on the radar for the 21's for this past campaign as he's only really breaking thru in recent months.
Doubtless he will be at least in the 21 squad for the Autumn games.  If he keeps playing at PL level, I'd say he'd b v close to a senior call-up.
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He's just turned 20 and starting games in the EPL. Technically he looks very good, for the goal he drops into central midfield, gets the ball, turns and gets his head up for a simple pass. I feel that's his best position although he's out on the right in today's game.

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