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Originally posted by williemc83 williemc83 wrote:

I wonder will UEFA designate a higher proportion of away tickets for this game. There is no corresponding home fixture and there isn't any precedent for this that I'm aware of so no reason the default 5% should apply.

If they never fill their stadium for games then maybe the Slovak FA would give the 10%. 

When does that decision get annouced? I waiting on all that info before I book anything 
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Originally posted by williemc83 williemc83 wrote:

I wonder will UEFA designate a higher proportion of away tickets for this game. There is no corresponding home fixture and there isn't any precedent for this that I'm aware of so no reason the default 5% should apply.

If they never fill their stadium for games then maybe the Slovak FA would give the 10%. 

When does that decision get annouced? I waiting on all that info before I book anything 

Officially they have until 20th December to decide RE the stadium, not sure about ticket allocation


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Originally posted by Darraghn92 Darraghn92 wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Originally posted by williemc83 williemc83 wrote:

I wonder will UEFA designate a higher proportion of away tickets for this game. There is no corresponding home fixture and there isn't any precedent for this that I'm aware of so no reason the default 5% should apply.

If they never fill their stadium for games then maybe the Slovak FA would give the 10%. 

When does that decision get annouced? I waiting on all that info before I book anything 

Officially they have until 20th December to decide RE the stadium, not sure about ticket allocation

Seemingly UEFA have confirmed that the 5% rule applies

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Originally posted by Skelly Skelly wrote:

Originally posted by Darraghn92 Darraghn92 wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Originally posted by williemc83 williemc83 wrote:

I wonder will UEFA designate a higher proportion of away tickets for this game. There is no corresponding home fixture and there isn't any precedent for this that I'm aware of so no reason the default 5% should apply.

If they never fill their stadium for games then maybe the Slovak FA would give the 10%. 

When does that decision get annouced? I waiting on all that info before I book anything 

Officially they have until 20th December to decide RE the stadium, not sure about ticket allocation

Seemingly UEFA have confirmed that the 5% rule applies


Yeah it always applies, it's the minimum they have to give, up to the associations then to come to an agreement if it's just 5% or any more. 
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But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Nope alot less bargaining power but they haven't sold out at all this campaign with pretty bad attendances, given that the incentive it a few extra euro probably. 

They also gave the welsh 2k tickets and definitely didn't get that in return, all we can do is wait and see
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Nope alot less bargaining power but they haven't sold out at all this campaign with pretty bad attendances, given that the incentive it a few extra euro probably. 

They also gave the welsh 2k tickets and definitely didn't get that in return, all we can do is wait and see

I'm sure they will sell out a playoff. 
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Nope alot less bargaining power but they haven't sold out at all this campaign with pretty bad attendances, given that the incentive it a few extra euro probably. 

They also gave the welsh 2k tickets and definitely didn't get that in return, all we can do is wait and see

I'm sure they will sell out a playoff. 

You would imagine so, but they had a chance to qualify the other night, albeit relying on Wales losing and it wasn't half full.

We'll just have to wait and see, imagine it'll be similar to Gibraltar 5 or 6 aways needed
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Slovakia wouldn't have taken 5200 to here anyway so it's a moot point. Our offer of 10% would have been irrelevant. 
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Slovakia wouldn't have taken 5200 to here anyway so it's a moot point. Our offer of 10% would have been irrelevant. 
Wasn't that part of the problem with the Denmark play-off 2 years ago - the FAI wanted to offer the Danes 10% of LR in return for 10% in Copenhagen but the Danish FA weren't interested in such a deal as they believed that their fans wouldn't be travelling to Dublin in big numbers?
 
If we only get 5% whether in Bratislava or Trnava, I'm already thinking I might as well stay at home as my record isn't great atm - nowhere near as good as it was when I applied for the Copenhagen playoff in a bigger stadium and I didn't even get into that so I certainly wouldn't fancy my chances this time. Cry
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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Slovakia wouldn't have taken 5200 to here anyway so it's a moot point. Our offer of 10% would have been irrelevant. 
Wasn't that part of the problem with the Denmark play-off 2 years ago - the FAI wanted to offer the Danes 10% of LR in return for 10% in Copenhagen but the Danish FA weren't interested in such a deal as they believed that their fans wouldn't be travelling to Dublin in big numbers?
 
If we only get 5% whether in Bratislava or Trnava, I'm already thinking I might as well stay at home as my record isn't great atm - nowhere near as good as it was when I applied for the Copenhagen playoff in a bigger stadium and I didn't even get into that so I certainly wouldn't fancy my chances this time. Cry

Can't remember what the criteria was for that playoff but given the amount of games since that have been under subscribed there wouldn't be huge numbers with the full 9/9, like i said we have 900 tickets in gib and it was 6/9 needed and some 5/9 also got tickets. Presuming based on that it'll be in or around 5 probably. 
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For Denmark it was 6 attended over the last two campaigns excluding Scotland
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Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Slovakia wouldn't have taken 5200 to here anyway so it's a moot point. Our offer of 10% would have been irrelevant. 
Wasn't that part of the problem with the Denmark play-off 2 years ago - the FAI wanted to offer the Danes 10% of LR in return for 10% in Copenhagen but the Danish FA weren't interested in such a deal as they believed that their fans wouldn't be travelling to Dublin in big numbers?
 
If we only get 5% whether in Bratislava or Trnava, I'm already thinking I might as well stay at home as my record isn't great atm - nowhere near as good as it was when I applied for the Copenhagen playoff in a bigger stadium and I didn't even get into that so I certainly wouldn't fancy my chances this time. Cry

Can't remember what the criteria was for that playoff but given the amount of games since that have been under subscribed there wouldn't be huge numbers with the full 9/9, like i said we have 900 tickets in gib and it was 6/9 needed and some 5/9 also got tickets. Presuming based on that it'll be in or around 5 probably. 
 
6 aways! I missed out by one and ended up paying a fortune for a home end ticket! Won't be making the same mistake this time round.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by wanderer wanderer wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

But usually when there's an arrangement there's a second leg to haggle with. You give us 10% and we'll give you 10%. Ireland don't have much bargaining power here. There's no incentive for Slovakia to give up anything

Slovakia wouldn't have taken 5200 to here anyway so it's a moot point. Our offer of 10% would have been irrelevant. 
Wasn't that part of the problem with the Denmark play-off 2 years ago - the FAI wanted to offer the Danes 10% of LR in return for 10% in Copenhagen but the Danish FA weren't interested in such a deal as they believed that their fans wouldn't be travelling to Dublin in big numbers?
 
If we only get 5% whether in Bratislava or Trnava, I'm already thinking I might as well stay at home as my record isn't great atm - nowhere near as good as it was when I applied for the Copenhagen playoff in a bigger stadium and I didn't even get into that so I certainly wouldn't fancy my chances this time. Cry

Can't remember what the criteria was for that playoff but given the amount of games since that have been under subscribed there wouldn't be huge numbers with the full 9/9, like i said we have 900 tickets in gib and it was 6/9 needed and some 5/9 also got tickets. Presuming based on that it'll be in or around 5 probably. 
 
6 aways! I missed out by one and ended up paying a fortune for a home end ticket! Won't be making the same mistake this time round.

I'd imagine 6 would definitely be enough this time too ??
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Another thing just occurred to me, say we get through to the final - how in God's name are the FAI then supposed to allocate tickets at just a few days' notice? It would obviously be local pick-up, but deciding who is entitled to a ticket in such a short time-frame...?
Have UEFA even considered this (apart from the nightmare of fans booking travel) when coming up with this format?*
 
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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Another thing just occurred to me, say we get through to the final - how in God's name are the FAI then supposed to allocate tickets at just a few days' notice? It would obviously be local pick-up, but deciding who is entitled to a ticket in such a short time-frame...?
Have UEFA even considered this (apart from the nightmare of fans booking travel) when coming up with this format?*
 
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Easy enough done. You apply for the semi final and the final (if you want it) in one go. As you say, pick up at the location. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:


Another thing just occurred to me, say we get through to the final - how in God's name are the FAI then supposed to allocate tickets at just a few days' notice? It would obviously be local pick-up, but deciding who is entitled to a ticket in such a short time-frame...?
Have UEFA even considered this (apart from the nightmare of fans booking travel) when coming up with this format?*
 
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Easy enough done. You apply for the semi final and the final (if you want it) in one go. As you say, pick up at the location. 


Yeah, same as Euros, get a voucher for a final ticket along with your semi final ticket, and exchange in Belfast or Sarajevo
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Tickets is Bosnia probably won't be an issue. There will be a core of people with pre-booked travel and a certain amount who will travel regardless, but the majority of fans won't be able to get reasonable flights to Bosnia booked on short notice. 


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