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Seamus Coleman was brilliant yesterday again and has to start at right back.
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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

Seamus Coleman was brilliant yesterday again and has to start at right back.
I think his experience is vital. I also think he is much suited to the back four we will certainly play.
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I was in favour of Young Doherty being first choice from now on but his two performances in the NL did him no favours whatsoever.  I realise this was early in the season but even so when you get your chance you have to take it and he didn't.  So I would be happy for Coleman to come back in for this game anyway and see what happens after that. The formation will probably change as we move on after this game.
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Smallbone, Obafemi and Long and non-starters for So'ton today.
We seem to have a lot of guaranteed squad-members not making starting teams.

I say that knowing only Long will likely be in the next squad but there are others - Idah, Hourihane, Connolly, O'Dowda and Arter too.
Many of the non-defensive options we looked at in the two NL games are simply not playing much club football yet and this match is fast approaching.

This is a worry.

McCarthy will hopefully be at full fitness (no guarantees there) and Hendrick too so that's something.
But who else from our midfield and attacking six will be?


O'Dowda and Arter shouldn't be in the squad to begin with. Connolly generally gets off the bench early 2nd half even if he doesn't start. Idah getting off the bench for Norwich regularly (which might be a better role for him in the national team). Villa haven't played a league game yet but it'll probably be Hourihane's position to lose, much like it was at the start of last season.
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If Robbie Brady starts for Burnley tonight, that would be a third Premiership midfielder with McCarthy and Hendrick. I doubt if Hourihane will be a first team pick at Villa. McGoldrick usually plays for Sheffield Utd when fit, Long is often on from the bench for Saints. I suspect McClean will be brought back for the Slovakia game and Connolly is likely to see some action at Brighton. Arter is reported to be close to signing a two year deal with Nottingham Forest.
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Whens the squad announcement ?
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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Whens the squad announcement ?

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 On current form I can only see the below as starters 

Randolph - there's simply no one else 

Egan - looks sharp and uniteds better centre back
Stephens - regaining his attacking sharpness
Coleman - been really solid for Everton 
Doherty - looks like hes getting his fitness back and had a good game today 

Hendrick - played today and Newcastle and hendrick looked better when he moved into the middle 
Mccarthy - played really well for palace

Connolly - beyond scoring for brighton looked like a really good player up top.

Can't say anyone else has been really good, randolph will play jus because no one else and doherty ans coleman might need to fight for a place.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Coleman can do no wrong - brilliant in defence and attack at weekend. It would be an insult not to start him on current form. Doherty? Midfield or the bench. Hopefully the former - he's simply too good to leave out. 

+1 on this... Coleman is back to his very best for Everton, in fact I would say his defending is better then ever before. 




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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Coleman can do no wrong - brilliant in defence and attack at weekend. It would be an insult not to start him on current form. Doherty? Midfield or the bench. Hopefully the former - he's simply too good to leave out. 

As the old saying goes - get your best players on the bench. It was always touch and go if he would play, he is the captain also. Recent performances he is a must starter, the trouble being that Doherty surely has to start too. 
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Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Coleman can do no wrong - brilliant in defence and attack at weekend. It would be an insult not to start him on current form. Doherty? Midfield or the bench. Hopefully the former - he's simply too good to leave out. 

As the old saying goes - get your best players on the bench. It was always touch and go if he would play, he is the captain also. Recent performances he is a must starter, the trouble being that Doherty surely has to start too. 

Doherty does not play as part of a middle three so where do you play him?
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Coleman can do no wrong - brilliant in defence and attack at weekend. It would be an insult not to start him on current form. Doherty? Midfield or the bench. Hopefully the former - he's simply too good to leave out. 

As the old saying goes - get your best players on the bench. It was always touch and go if he would play, he is the captain also. Recent performances he is a must starter, the trouble being that Doherty surely has to start too. 

Doherty does not play as part of a middle three so where do you play him?
You go first!

OK. Doherty doesn't get into my team. There  - Sorted. 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Coleman can do no wrong - brilliant in defence and attack at weekend. It would be an insult not to start him on current form. Doherty? Midfield or the bench. Hopefully the former - he's simply too good to leave out. 

As the old saying goes - get your best players on the bench. It was always touch and go if he would play, he is the captain also. Recent performances he is a must starter, the trouble being that Doherty surely has to start too. 

Doherty does not play as part of a middle three so where do you play him?
You go first!

OK. Doherty doesn't get into my team. There  - Sorted. 
If Kenny uses the same format I'd play Coleman and replace O'Dowda with Doherty. 

I doubt Doherty has ever played in the front 3 in his life
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Brady plays left, right and centre of midfield.
Hendrick plays right and centre of midfield 
Egan plays in a back three and a back four 
Mcclean plays as a forward, left wing, left back.

Doherty - right wing back only....
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Coleman can do no wrong - brilliant in defence and attack at weekend. It would be an insult not to start him on current form. Doherty? Midfield or the bench. Hopefully the former - he's simply too good to leave out. 

As the old saying goes - get your best players on the bench. It was always touch and go if he would play, he is the captain also. Recent performances he is a must starter, the trouble being that Doherty surely has to start too. 

Doherty does not play as part of a middle three so where do you play him?

If he can drop Coleman for Doherty, then he can certainly drop Doherty for the in-form captain with bags of experience. Everybody keeps saying that Doherty can't play in a 4 and is best used as a wing back - well surely to god he could play on the wing in midfield aswell. Granted its a slightly different position for him but attacking all the same. But as I said - get your best players on the pitch - so I'd like to see both of them play if possible.


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Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by GoneToShowgies GoneToShowgies wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Coleman can do no wrong - brilliant in defence and attack at weekend. It would be an insult not to start him on current form. Doherty? Midfield or the bench. Hopefully the former - he's simply too good to leave out. 

As the old saying goes - get your best players on the bench. It was always touch and go if he would play, he is the captain also. Recent performances he is a must starter, the trouble being that Doherty surely has to start too. 

Doherty does not play as part of a middle three so where do you play him?

If he can drop Coleman for Doherty, then he can certainly drop Doherty for the in-form captain with bags of experience. Everybody keeps saying that Doherty can't play in a 4 and is best used as a wing back - well surely to god he could play on the wing in midfield aswell. Granted its a slightly different position for him but attacking all the same. But as I said - get your best players on the pitch - so I'd like to see both of them play if possible.

But Kenny is playing 4-3-3 and Doherty has not played in that formation in any of the front 6 spots. 
So, do you play him in a position he has not played before just to get him in the team???
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I don't think forcing your best players out of position just to have them on the pitch works. Scotland seem to regularly try to do this and rarely with much success. 

I also think that Doherty is one of those players that suits a certain system and position within that system and isn't anywhere near as good outwith it. Unless we change to that system I don't think he should be starting.
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